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Post by I.M.Apologetics on Apr 11, 2008 12:19:19 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgKIkruHZkoHer "church" is growing and taking people away from the True Faith! She denies Jesus as the only way!!! BLASPHEMY!!! HERESY!!!! God bless and change her soul, and the souls of those being mislead.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 11, 2008 12:35:53 GMT -5
People that follow "Opra" are just weak minded individuals looking for a hero.
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 11, 2008 14:16:34 GMT -5
Sometimes I like to watch the Oprah show when I'm working out, lol.
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Post by I.M.Apologetics on Apr 12, 2008 0:39:20 GMT -5
no, they are looking for excuses to live as they want, excuses to reject the Truth, excuses to reject Christianity
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 12, 2008 10:26:45 GMT -5
Welll like i said....WEAK MINDED FOLKS!
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Post by I.M.Apologetics on Apr 12, 2008 21:49:37 GMT -5
i try to refrain from using that term.. You'd be surprised how many times we, too, are weak minded
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 13, 2008 0:39:28 GMT -5
Normally i just call them "weak". Im just being as honest as i can.
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Post by I.M.Apologetics on Apr 13, 2008 15:07:19 GMT -5
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Post by I.M.Apologetics on Apr 13, 2008 15:08:15 GMT -5
Now, about the term weak.
I have to be the first to raise my hand and say I'm weak.
Even when I do not do stupid things or fall into great, mortal sin, I do stupid little sins, or fail to see my failures, or fail to do what's best, just because I follow my emotions, my desires, etc.
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Post by redsoxfan on Apr 27, 2008 18:28:12 GMT -5
I"M WEAKER THAN YOU!!!
LOL! Just thought I get a whole weaker than thou arguement going. Nice post IMA!
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Post by I.M.Apologetics on May 19, 2008 9:20:04 GMT -5
weaker than thou seems at least better than holier than thou! lol
And worse case senario, if weaker than thou is false humility, at least a virtue is being imitated... whereas holier than thou goes more for hypocrisy and judgmentalism (that a word?)
pax Christi
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Post by knuckle on May 19, 2008 18:48:59 GMT -5
I was looking for the clip where Denzel Washington calls her on it----any of you know where to find it?
much love------------knuckle
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Post by Cepha on May 19, 2008 20:51:01 GMT -5
The only videos I've seen of those two have been of them being chummy chummy.
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Post by knuckle on May 19, 2008 20:58:56 GMT -5
They had a falling out because of the all roads lead to God stuff she promotes the tape was stopped but those in the studio audience claimed Denzel was so irate security escorted him off stage-----of course all this is internet hear say
much love--------------knuckle
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Post by Cepha on Aug 7, 2008 22:02:12 GMT -5
God change his soul and the souls of those that are being misled. You remind me of this guy...: Luke 18:9-14 9And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exaltedKeep riding that high horse. Yes, you are great enough to judge here in your own mind, but you should get a mouthpiece now. There's going to be a lot of gnashing of teeth with the level of arrogance you display here. |
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Post by Cepha on Aug 7, 2008 22:19:06 GMT -5
Yet you do not deny it and you can't you would have to erase the entire ''what say ye'' thread to hide your heresy. I know I was a sinner and I have repented thank you for your concern. It is O.K. for them to point out that oprah teaches this heresy, but when I point out that you have also been promoting it also, I am now a pharisetical judge. I don't think so, I am just pointing out satan for who he is. Do you know what they say about "assuming"? Well, I've never actually read the OP of the Oprah thread. I still haven't. I'm just answering your posts. It never interested me. And for someone who doesn't believe in The Real Presence of Christ in The Eucharist, you are in no position to call anyone a Heretic. Maybe I'm a Heretic in your particular church, but I'm not a Protestant, so it's irrelevant. You don't even meet Jesus' requirements to be saved (belief in the Real Presence). [Not my personal judgement, but The Word of God/John 6] Again, keep riding that high horse. The fall will be great like the house that was built upon sand (man) in Matthew 7 as opposed to the house that was built upon rock (Peter). You are a church unto yourself. Your own Pope. You get to decide what you believe and what you don't want to believe. Me? I have no choice in the matter. I have to believe "everything" Jesus teaches. Not just what sounds right to me. You are the definition of a "Christian Exclusionsist". You know who else worked to keep people from the house of God? (See passage above) |
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Post by Cepha on Aug 7, 2008 22:21:35 GMT -5
This is similar to an exchange we had where you were the one talking about being righteous and judged me to be blind with your exclusionism and your focus on a book instead of The Spirit of The Words of The Word of God...
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Post by Cepha on Aug 7, 2008 22:24:49 GMT -5
That is absolutely the best depiction of Christ I have ever seen!
Amen!
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Post by Cepha on Aug 8, 2008 10:59:46 GMT -5
You have no idea what I believe about taking communion, you are doing exactly what you say protestants do, you say they deflect blame by attacking catholicism, which is exactly what you have done here. Just calling a spade a spade...that's alright, isn't it? (Something I learned from you...I believe you said you saw nothing wrong with it... ...I guess, that is until it was applied to you?) Uhhh..."Bible alone" is a Protestant teaching. (Remember, that even The Bible teaches that it is The Church that is the foundation of The Truth) I happily stand corrected that you believe in transubstantiation.  1 down, many more to go! I follow the teachings of those that followed The Apostles (not disciples) and if they disagree with this, then they are the Heretics, not I: The Church and non-Christians
839 "Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to the People of God in various ways."325
The relationship of the Church with the Jewish People. When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People,326 "the first to hear the Word of God."327 The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God's revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews "belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ",328 "for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."329
840 And when one considers the future, God's People of the Old Covenant and the new People of God tend towards similar goals: expectation of the coming (or the return) of the Messiah. But one awaits the return of the Messiah who died and rose from the dead and is recognized as Lord and Son of God; the other awaits the coming of a Messiah, whose features remain hidden till the end of time; and the latter waiting is accompanied by the drama of not knowing or of misunderstanding Christ Jesus.
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330
842 The Church's bond with non-Christian religions is in the first place the common origin and end of the human race:
All nations form but one community. This is so because all stem from the one stock which God created to people the entire earth, and also because all share a common destiny, namely God. His providence, evident goodness, and saving designs extend to all against the day when the elect are gathered together in the holy city. . .331
843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life."332
844 In their religious behavior, however, men also display the limits and errors that disfigure the image of God in them:
Very often, deceived by the Evil One, men have become vain in their reasonings, and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and served the creature rather than the Creator. Or else, living and dying in this world without God, they are exposed to ultimate despair.333
845 To reunite all his children, scattered and led astray by sin, the Father willed to call the whole of humanity together into his Son's Church. The Church is the place where humanity must rediscover its unity and salvation. The Church is "the world reconciled." She is that bark which "in the full sail of the Lord's cross, by the breath of the Holy Spirit, navigates safely in this world." According to another image dear to the Church Fathers, she is prefigured by Noah's ark, which alone saves from the flood.334 "Outside the Church there is no salvation"
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336
847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.337
848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."338 Amazing...you just started your own church when you became non-Denominational and all of a sudden, 2,000 years of Christianity wrong. Ok. I agree with The Church... "Very often, deceived by the Evil One, men have become vain in their reasonings, and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and served the creature rather than the Creator."And this was written half a millenia ago. How predictable. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Aug 17, 2008 18:52:36 GMT -5
ASHES, have you ever attended a Catholic Service?
If not maybe you should, if so, there is no way you can say we are spauns of satan. We Glorify God. The whole mass is about Jesus and his sacrifice and his resurrection.
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