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Post by Cepha on Aug 17, 2008 21:37:40 GMT -5
And thanks for the defense.
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Post by IMApologetics logged off on Aug 18, 2008 16:43:52 GMT -5
Cepha, how can an atheist be "more Christian" than some Christians? That doesn't make sense. Atheists have no souls. They have a black hole inside and nothing more. They only learn if something catastrophic happens to them, then they call the name of Jesus. Right1, I cannot believe not one refuted you when you say atheists have no souls. Only RSF answered to this proposition of yours, but he didn't elaborate on your statement about souls. Atheists, agnostics, spiritists, skeptics, deists, theists, muslims, hindus, etc etc, have all a rational soul and are ALL made in the image and likeness of God (see Genesis). Because of this, they all have immortal souls, just like us. Surely, the rejection of the Gospel may damn their souls, but St. Paul is clear about those who have not heard the message of Jesus Christ our Lord and God. St. Paul says that their conscience will be their judge, since God's law is written in every single human being so long they have reason. And what Cephas was saying is that some atheists act better according to God's law inbedded in our conscience (this law is the same as the eternal and divine law, which is found in the Gospel and in the Church) than some of us who profess Christ. In other words, some atheists are more moral than some so-called Christians. Pax Christi, Juan J.
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Post by Cepha on Aug 18, 2008 16:46:46 GMT -5
Cepha, how can an atheist be "more Christian" than some Christians? That doesn't make sense. Atheists have no souls. They have a black hole inside and nothing more. They only learn if something catastrophic happens to them, then they call the name of Jesus. Right1, I cannot believe not one refuted you when you say atheists have no souls. Only RSF answered to this proposition of yours, but he didn't elaborate on your statement about souls. Atheists, agnostics, spiritists, skeptics, deists, theists, muslims, hindus, etc etc, have all a rational soul and are ALL made in the image and likeness of God (see Genesis). Because of this, they all have immortal souls, just like us. Surely, the rejection of the Gospel may damn their souls, but St. Paul is clear about those who have not heard the message of Jesus Christ our Lord and God. St. Paul says that their conscience will be their judge, since God's law is written in every single human being so long they have reason. And what Cephas was saying is that some atheists act better according to God's law inbedded in our conscience (this law is the same as the eternal and divine law, which is found in the Gospel and in the Church) than some of us who profess Christ. In other words, some atheists are more moral than some so-called Christians.Pax Christi, Juan J. Finally. Somebody "get's it".
Well said Juan.
And to be honest, I don't even remember seeing what she wrote or I probably didn't respond to it because it might've been too extreme. There are just some statements that I don't even bother with.
Do atheists have souls? Of course they do. God created them and God never created a soulless human being.
And even they have The Word of God written on their hearts...that's why some of them live out His Will without even knowing it, while Scripture is full of those who were Scriputral experts who Jesus condemned to Hell while praising the acts of "non-Believers".
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