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Post by Cepha on Nov 8, 2008 16:02:38 GMT -5
So, how does this tickle any racists & non-racists here?
Ladies and gentlemen of America!
Here is The First Family!
Please be sure to answer the poll honestly!
Thanks!  
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Post by knuckle on Nov 9, 2008 6:26:12 GMT -5
five negative and one positive response?.........
no middle of the roads,like "cute family" or "hey I am just glad to see the election over and done"
----either we are drinking champagne in the streets celebrating or moving to Canada----kind of a polarized response.
Personally I voted Obama and I am glad he won but could not care less what dresses his wife wears,what breed of dog they get or how his youngest girl does on her spelling bee and the media isn''t going to get everyone to love this president by giving the Obama family the Kennedy treatment.
much love---------------------knuckle
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Post by Cepha on Nov 9, 2008 14:06:19 GMT -5
You know what?
Not that this forum was on fire before,
but I kind of knew it that when Obama won,
the "Anti-Obamians" here would dissappear.
Come on guys, we don't have to talk about Obama anymore!
We can go back to talking about Religion again!
;D
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Post by Cepha on Nov 9, 2008 14:12:43 GMT -5
five negative and one positive response?......... no middle of the roads,like "cute family" or "hey I am just glad to see the election over and done" ----either we are drinking champagne in the streets celebrating or moving to Canada----kind of a polarized response. Personally I voted Obama and I am glad he won but could not care less what dresses his wife wears,what breed of dog they get or how his youngest girl does on her spelling bee and the media isn''t going to get everyone to love this president by giving the Obama family the Kennedy treatment. much love---------------------knuckle LOL! Don't forget, it's there's the "all of the above" option too for the negative responses! LOL! I honestly think that there should only be one answer there...to be proud of our country for what has just transpired. No "gray" area (no pun intended! LOL!). But, I gave those that showed so much rancid hatred for him the opportunity to be represented. I honestly believe that their stomachs are turning at all fo the good will that is going on between Americans of all walks of life. They are hating the unity that Americans are expressing...it's a lot like 9/12 again (the day after 9/11 when we were like the movie "Independance Day" and had a common enemy and were all one only this time, we have a common friend in Obama). I like the team he's putting together (of both the best Republicans and Democrats and I believe he even has an Independant or two rolling with him). Now, for all those Pro-Lifers, let's see if the abortion rate goes back down to the levels that they were "before" the Republicans made abortion the law of the land and before Bush took office and a Democrat was President. While I'd like to see it obliterated, a drop would be good. A big drop. Pax |
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Post by Cepha on Nov 9, 2008 14:25:29 GMT -5
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Nov 9, 2008 22:39:25 GMT -5
I voted for the last choice, yet i feel we have the wrong black family in the white house...only time will tell!
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Post by Cepha on Nov 13, 2008 9:22:49 GMT -5
I voted for the last choice, yet i feel we have the wrong black family in the white house...only time will tell! Cool.  And time will tell. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Nov 17, 2008 22:13:53 GMT -5
www.howobamagotelected.com/ Seen this on Hannity and COLMBS (spelling?) People should not vote unless they know what they are voting for UGH!
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Post by Cepha on Nov 18, 2008 10:36:48 GMT -5
www.howobamagotelected.com/ Seen this on Hannity and COLMBS (spelling?) People should not vote unless they know what they are voting for UGH!
Deal with it!
LOL!
Come on now, say it..."President Barack HUSSEIN Obama!"
LOL!
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Nov 18, 2008 12:51:31 GMT -5
nope, wont ever say it, its sounds horrible!
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Post by Cepha on Nov 19, 2008 10:12:21 GMT -5
nope, wont ever say it, its sounds horrible! Why does it sound horrible? His name literally appears "in" The Holy Bible many times. Does yours? It's literally a Biblical name, so why is it horrible to you? Why is it that when it's applied to this particular man that it becomes "horrible"? Because it's not "Jefferson"? Or "Walker"? Or "Syndey"? What is it about that particular name that sounds horrible to you? Do you have something against it because it's a "Semitic" name? Jesus was "Semitic". Do you have anything against His name? If He came back as "Yeshua" which is His Semitic name, would you find it terrible too? The likelyhood that He would've said "Barack" or "Hussein" or "Obama" is far greater than His saying "Steven" or "Marcie". Here's an article that would do you some good: ____________________________________________________________________ Barack Hussein Obama, Omar Bradley, Benjamin Franklin and other Semitically Named American Heroes
At Cincinnati, Bill Cunningham, according to the LAT, who "introduced presidential candidate John McCain at a rally here today accused Barack Obama of sympathizing with 'world leaders who want to kill us' and invoked Obama's middle name -- three times calling him 'Barack Hussein Obama.' " John McCain repudiated Cunningham's low tactics and said that using the middle name like that three times was "inappropriate" and would never happen again at one of his rallies.
I want to say something about Barack Hussein Obama's name. It is a name to be proud of. It is an American name. It is a blessed name. It is a heroic name, as heroic and American in its own way as the name of General Omar Nelson Bradley or the name of Benjamin Franklin. And denigrating that name is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort. It is a prejudice against names deriving from Semitic languages!
Christian, Western heroes have often been bequeathed Middle Eastern names. Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar, the medieval Spanish hero, carried the name El Cid, from the Arabic al-Sayyid, "the lord."
Barack and Hussein are Semitic words. Americans have been named with Semitic names since the founding of the Republic. Fourteen of our 43 presidents have had Semitic names (see below). And, American English contains many Arabic-derived words that we use every day and without which we would be much impoverished. America is a world civilization with a world heritage, something Cunninghamism will never understand.
Barack is a Semitic word meaning "to bless" as a verb or "blessing" as a noun. In its Hebrew form, barak, it is found all through the Bible. It first occurs in Genesis 1:22: "And God blessed (ḇâreḵə ) them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth."
Here is a list of how many times barak appears in each book of the Bible.
Now let us take the name "Hussein." It is from the Semitic word, hasan, meaning "good" or "handsome." Husayn is the diminutive, affectionate form.
Barack Obama's middle name is in honor of his grandfather, Hussein, a secular resident of Nairobi. Americans may think of Saddam Hussein when they hear the name, but that is like thinking of Stalin when you hear the name Joseph. There have been lots of Husseins in history, from the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, a hero who touched the historian Gibbon, to King Hussein of Jordan, one of America's most steadfast allies in the 20th century. The author of the beloved American novel, The Kite Runner, is Khaled Hosseini.
But in Obama's case, it is just a reference to his grandfather.
It is worth pointing out that John McCain's adopted daughter, Bridget, is originally from Bangladesh. Since Hussein is a very common name in Bangladesh, it is entirely possible that her birth father or grandfather was named Hussein. McCain certainly has Muslim relatives via adoption in his family. If Muslim relatives are a disqualification from high office in the United States, then McCain himself is in trouble. In fact, since Bridget is upset that George W. Bush doesn't like her "because she is black," and used her to stop the McCain campaign in South Carolina in 2000, you understand why McCain would be especially sensitive to race-baiting of Cunningham's sort. The question is how vigorously he will combat it; he hasn't been above Muslim-taunting in the campaign so far. (And, the McCains really should let Bridget know that she is Asian, not "black." The poor girl; Bush and Rove have done a number on her, and Cindy's confusion can't help.)
The other thing to say about grandfathers named Hussein is that very large numbers of African-Americans probably have an ancestor ten or eleven generations ago with that name, in what is now Mali or Senegal or Nigeria. And, since so many thousands of Arab Muslims were made to convert to Catholicism in Spain after 1501, many Latinos have distant ancestors named Hussein, too. In fact, since there was a lot of Arab-Spanish intermarriage, and since there was subsequent Spanish intermarriage with other European Catholics, more European Americans are descended from a Hussein than they realize. The British royal family is quite forthright about the Arab line in their ancestry going back to Andalusia.
Obama, being a cousin of Dick Cheney on one side and having relatives in Kenya on the other, is just more and more typical of the 21st century United States.
So, anyway, Obama's first two names mean "Blessing, the Good." If we are lucky enough to get him for president, we can only hope that his names are prophetic for us.
Which brings me to Omar Bradley. Omar is an alternative spelling of Umar, i.e. Umar ibn al-Khattab, the second caliph of Sunni Islam. Presumably General Bradley was named for the poet Omar Khayyam, who bore the caliph's name. Omar Khayyam's Rubaiyat, in the "translation" of Edward FitzGerald, became enormously popular in Victorian America.
Gen. Omar Bradley, who bore a Semitic, Muslim first name, and shared it with the second Caliph of Sunni Islam, was the hero of D-Day and Normandy, of the Battle of the Bulge and the Ruhr.
Would Mr. Cunningham see Omar Bradley as un-American, as an enemy because of his name?
What about other American heroes, such as Gen. George Joulwan, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander of Europe? "Joulwan" is an Arabic name. Or there is Gen. John Abizaid, former CENTCOM commander. Abizaid is an Arabic name. Abi means Abu or "father of," and Zaid is a common Arab first name. Is Cunningham good enough to wipe their shoes? Is he going to call them traitors because they have Arabic names?
What about Congressman Darrell Issa of California? ("`Isa" means Jesus in Arabic). Former cabinet secretary Donna Shalala? (Shalala means "waterfall" in Arabic).
I won't go into all the great Americans with Arabic names in sports, entertainment and business, against whom Cunningham would apparently discriminate on that basis. Does he want to take citizenship away from Kareem Abdul Jabbar [meaning "noble the servant of the Mighty"] and Ahmad Jamal [meaning "the most praised, beauty"]? What about Rihanna ["sweet basil," "aromatic"]? Tony Shalhoub [i.e. Mr. Monk]?
Let us take Benjamin Franklin. His first name is from the Hebrew Bin Yamin, the son of the Right (hand), or son of strength, or the son of the South (yamin or right has lots of connotations). The "Bin" means "son of," just as in modern colloquial Arabic. Bin Yamin Franklin is not a dishonorable name because of its Semitic root. By the way, there are lots of Muslims named Bin Yamin.
As for an American president bearing a name derived from a Semitic language, that is hardly unprecedented.
John Adams really only had Semitic names. His first name is from the Hebrew Yochanan, or gift of God, which became Johan and then John. (In German and in medieval English, "y" is represented by "j" but was originally pronounced "y".) Adams is from the biblical Adam, which also just means "human being." In Arabic, one way of saying "human being" is "Bani Adam," the children of men.
Thomas Jefferson's first name is from the Aramaic Tuma, meaning "twin." Aramaic is a Semitic language spoken by Jesus, which is related to Hebrew and Arabic. In Arabic twin is tau'am, so you can see the similarity.
James Madison, James Monroe and James Polk all had a Semitic first name, derived from the Hebrew Ya'aqov or Jacob, which is Ya`qub in Arabic. It became Iacobus in Latin, then was corrupted to Iacomus, and from there became James in English.
Zachary Taylor's first name is from the Hebrew Zachariah, which means "the Lord has remembered."
Abraham Lincoln, of course is, named for the patriarch Abraham, from the Semitic word for father, Ab, and the word for "multitude," raham,. Abu, "father of," is a common element in Arab names today.
So, Mr. Cunningham, Barack Hussein Obama fits right in this list of presidents with Semitic names. In fact, we haven't had one for a while. We are due for another one.
A blessed and good one. www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=01288 |
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Post by Cepha on Nov 19, 2008 10:13:47 GMT -5
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Nov 19, 2008 11:27:42 GMT -5
Ok, now that video is a joke haha.
But anyhow, I dont find the name Hussain very appeasing, or Obama. It just doesnt sound american. Like i said, i dont trust this man. He said he was going to have a non-partisan cabinet, and i have not seen that yet. Also, he said he was a DC outsider, and he was goingto change Washington, during his campaign, but look at who he is considering as secretary of state. Oh, i cant wait till he is done choosing his people. CNN was even talkingabout it, and that is the most biased news channel. lol
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Post by Cepha on Nov 19, 2008 13:14:02 GMT -5
Ok, now that video is a joke haha. But anyhow, I dont find the name Hussain very appeasing, or Obama. It just doesnt sound american. Really now? What does an "American" name sound like? Like these? OCUMWHOWURST, OCUNNOWHURST: Cheyenne name meaning "yellow wolf." ODAKOTA: Sioux name meaning "friend." OGALEESHA: Sioux name meaning "wears a red shirt." OHANKO: reckless OHANZEE: Sioux name meaning "shadow." OHCUMGACHE, OKHMHAKA: Cheyenne name meaning "little wolf." OHITEKAH: Sioux name meaning "brave." OMAWNAKW: Hopi name meaning "cloud feather." OTAKTAY: Sioux name meaning "kills many." OTOAHHASTIS: Cheyenne name meaning "tall bull." OTOAHNACTO: Cheyenne name meaning "bull bear." OURAY: arrow OYA: Miwok name. Meaning unknown Do those names sound "American" to you? What does that have to do with his name? A) He was just voted in 2 weeks ago B) He already has Republicans in line for nominations (including one Sydney McCain with a position too if not "in" his cabinet). So far... Defense Secretary: current Sec. Robert Gates, Sen. Chuck Hagel (NE) Education Secretary: former Gov. Tom Kean (NJ) Commerce Secretary: Sen. Olympia Snowe (ME) Homeland Security Secretary: Sen. Susan Collins (ME) So before, he wasn't "experienced" enough for you, but when he puts in someone with years of experience, then that's wrong too? Besides, what's wrong with choosing the best person for the job? And...would you have him fill all the positions with inexperienced persons? See that? The arguments you once had against him don't work here. You can't have it both ways Marcie. Really? Funny, but everybody else seems to know that Fox is the most biased. But anyway, he won. He's the President to be and he's going to be YOUR President. Presiden Barack HUSSEIN Obama! LOL! Doesn't it just make ya' cringe? LOL! |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Nov 19, 2008 15:43:06 GMT -5
Really now? What does an "American" name sound like? Like these? OCUMWHOWURST, OCUNNOWHURST: Cheyenne name meaning "yellow wolf." ODAKOTA: Sioux name meaning "friend." OGALEESHA: Sioux name meaning "wears a red shirt." OHANKO: reckless OHANZEE: Sioux name meaning "shadow." OHCUMGACHE, OKHMHAKA: Cheyenne name meaning "little wolf." OHITEKAH: Sioux name meaning "brave." OMAWNAKW: Hopi name meaning "cloud feather." OTAKTAY: Sioux name meaning "kills many." OTOAHHASTIS: Cheyenne name meaning "tall bull." OTOAHNACTO: Cheyenne name meaning "bull bear." OURAY: arrow OYA: Miwok name. Meaning unknown Do those names sound "American" to you? NOPE, and who cares what they mean;) What does that have to do with his name? A) He was just voted in 2 weeks ago B) He already has Republicans in line for nominations (including one Sydney McCain with a position too if not "in" his cabinet). So far... Defense Secretary: current Sec. Robert Gates, Sen. Chuck Hagel (NE) Education Secretary: former Gov. Tom Kean (NJ) Commerce Secretary: Sen. Olympia Snowe (ME) Homeland Security Secretary: Sen. Susan Collins (ME) So before, he wasn't "experienced" enough for you, but when he puts in someone with years of experience, then that's wrong too? Besides, what's wrong with choosing the best person for the job? And...would you have him fill all the positions with inexperienced persons? See that? The arguments you once had against him don't work here. You can't have it both ways Marcie. Really? Funny, but everybody else seems to know that Fox is the most biased. But anyway, he won. He's the President to be and he's going to be YOUR President. Presiden Barack HUSSEIN Obama! LOL! Doesn't it just make ya' cringe? LOL! Im saying, he is going to have a radical cabinet. Lets just see... |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Nov 19, 2008 15:44:39 GMT -5
dang, read inside the quoted area, i commented in there, im not good at these quote things lol
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Post by Cepha on Nov 22, 2008 10:37:53 GMT -5
Really now? What does an "American" name sound like? Like these? OCUMWHOWURST, OCUNNOWHURST: Cheyenne name meaning "yellow wolf." ODAKOTA: Sioux name meaning "friend." OGALEESHA: Sioux name meaning "wears a red shirt." OHANKO: reckless OHANZEE: Sioux name meaning "shadow." OHCUMGACHE, OKHMHAKA: Cheyenne name meaning "little wolf." OHITEKAH: Sioux name meaning "brave." OMAWNAKW: Hopi name meaning "cloud feather." OTAKTAY: Sioux name meaning "kills many." OTOAHHASTIS: Cheyenne name meaning "tall bull." OTOAHNACTO: Cheyenne name meaning "bull bear." OURAY: arrow OYA: Miwok name. Meaning unknown Do those names sound "American" to you? NOPE, and who cares what they mean;) What does that have to do with his name? A) He was just voted in 2 weeks ago B) He already has Republicans in line for nominations (including one Sydney McCain with a position too if not "in" his cabinet). So far... Defense Secretary: current Sec. Robert Gates, Sen. Chuck Hagel (NE) Education Secretary: former Gov. Tom Kean (NJ) Commerce Secretary: Sen. Olympia Snowe (ME) Homeland Security Secretary: Sen. Susan Collins (ME) So before, he wasn't "experienced" enough for you, but when he puts in someone with years of experience, then that's wrong too? Besides, what's wrong with choosing the best person for the job? And...would you have him fill all the positions with inexperienced persons? See that? The arguments you once had against him don't work here. You can't have it both ways Marcie. Really? Funny, but everybody else seems to know that Fox is the most biased. But anyway, he won. He's the President to be and he's going to be YOUR President. Presiden Barack HUSSEIN Obama! LOL! Doesn't it just make ya' cringe? LOL! Im saying, he is going to have a radical cabinet. Lets just see... Because his name is Obama? Funny, but so far, everybody he's picked have been centrist figures (moderates). And he's almost got his cabinet filled (usually, no cabinet members are named before December 1st, so he's actually ahead of schedule). Besides, if he runs The White House as efficiently and as productively as he's run his campaign, then we're in for the same success that he acheived in winning against all odds. We have a "winner" in charge of this country now. |
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Post by Cepha on Nov 22, 2008 10:38:45 GMT -5
Don't worry Alfie, it'll be ok.  |
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Post by Cepha on Jan 12, 2009 12:50:55 GMT -5
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jan 12, 2009 13:41:23 GMT -5
Well, if his cabinet is extremely conservative...then why did he run a "time for change" campaign?
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