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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 6, 2009 14:58:33 GMT -5
no definetly not a bus going or coming from mexico. I would not put him on a bus to go anywhere in us either. But, i am also not affraid to go to walmart or the mall or the corner store.
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Post by Cepha on May 7, 2009 9:08:46 GMT -5
no definetly not a bus going or coming from mexico. I would not put him on a bus to go anywhere in us either. But, i am also not affraid to go to walmart or the mall or the corner store. The VP didn't speak about "open" spaces, but confined spaces where if someone had the virus, the rest of the passengers couldn't escape it's effect. This would cause the entire plane to catch this unusually contagious "new" strain of the flu and go from one passenger with it to over a hundred having it...then what? When they get off the plane, each one of them can spread it to at least one person (if not more). There's a great movie called "Outbreak" with Dustin Hoffman. Everybody should see it. My daughters and their mother are extremely sick. Got tested for Swine, came back negative, but their mom has Fluenza A (with 103 degree fever). She's in horrible condition. Yet, she rode the bus. Would you let you child take a one hour busride with her on that bus "to" Walmart"? |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 7, 2009 19:24:52 GMT -5
look im not a germaphobe and i would not put my child on a bus
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 15, 2009 12:06:21 GMT -5
How about this Nancy Polosi stuff? I think she knew exactly what was happening and if she was telling the truth why did it take so long for her to come out and talk about it. Also, if there were nothing to hide, the cia would release the documents showing that she was present at the house meetings discussing the interigations. Yeah, i have not liked this woman from the get go.
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Post by Cepha on May 17, 2009 12:16:19 GMT -5
How about this Nancy Polosi stuff? How about that? LOL! The CIA are the same ones who lied to the American People about there being Weapons of Mass Destruction that led to the deaths of nearly 5,000 American Soldiers because of this false evidence they produced. She did know about it...but not when they accused her of knowing about it. She provided proof that the CIA did "NOT" brief her that they were using torture. She told The Truth. What's the problem? Why is everybody worried about when Nancy Pelosi was told when she wasn't even the Leader back then? Back then, I believer (cough, cough), The Republicans had full control of The Senate and The Congress. Why isn't Republican asking about what they (The Republican controlled Senate and Congress) knew and when they knew it? Hmmm...I wonder? LOL! Or, why don't they want to talk about the illegal torture that they employed in the war on terror? Hmmm...I wonder? I guess you have absolutely NO idea of what The CIA's job actually is huh? It's to run COVERT operations! LOL! Their spies! LOL! Their whole business relies on keeping secrets and on decetion (like they lied to the American People about there being Weapons of Mass Desctruction in Iraq causing the uneccessary deaths of 5,000 American Soldiers and putting our country into a recesssion because of the money we wasted in Iraq building up their economy and giving them budget surpluses). |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 17, 2009 16:52:35 GMT -5
Well didnt the president make the cia release CERTAIN documents...but wont release all the documents showing that she DID know about the interigations. Just admit, she lied and is blaiming the cia now the cia is on her butt....will see what happens.
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Post by Cepha on May 17, 2009 17:43:42 GMT -5
Well didnt the president make the cia release CERTAIN documents...but wont release all the documents showing that she DID know about the interigations. Just admit, she lied and is blaiming the cia now the cia is on her butt....will see what happens. A) The President released those documents showing where the former administration has violated U.S. Laws. B) The CIA released copies of the briefings and guess what? Even they show that she wasn't briefed on the torture. C) AND!!! The documents have proven that what she stated at the press conference was true! She wasn't told that they (the CIA) were waterboarding! OK? LOL! |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 17, 2009 18:47:14 GMT -5
An unclassified chart released last month by the CIA describes a total of 40 briefings for lawmakers over a period of several years on enhanced interrogation techniques. Pelosi's name appears once, as having attended a session on Sept. 4, 2002, when she was the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. Former Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla., who at the time was the chairman of the committee and later became CIA director, also was present. news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090515/ap_on_go_co/us_pelosi_torturewww.msnbc.msn.com/id/30745095/Seems to be that she was there when the interigation talks were happening.. |
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 9:53:19 GMT -5
An unclassified chart released last month by the CIA describes a total of 40 briefings for lawmakers over a period of several years on enhanced interrogation techniques. Pelosi's name appears once, as having attended a session on Sept. 4, 2002, when she was the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. Former Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla., who at the time was the chairman of the committee and later became CIA director, also was present. news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090515/ap_on_go_co/us_pelosi_torturewww.msnbc.msn.com/id/30745095/Seems to be that she was there when the interigation talks were happening.. But! The CIA didn't tell her that they were using the illegal torture waterboarding which is what she said. So, since she told the truth and that's settled, let's look at how the CIA used broke the law of the United States and tortured suspects... And...let's convict those (The Bush Administration) who ordered this breaking of the law. What do you think...should we punish people who break the law? Texas is big on lawbreakers, right? ;D |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 18, 2009 11:37:07 GMT -5
No i dont think we should go back and prosecute anyone for doing the interigations that were ordered to be done. Everyone agreed with it at the time and it is what it is. I agree with the interigations IF they work.
I guess it does not bother you that the terrorist beheaded all those inosent journalists? That enough gives me the ok.
And you dont KNOW what pelosi heard, you were not there! And CNN is even calling her out. The truth hopefully will come out..with evidence.
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 12:09:38 GMT -5
No i dont think we should go back and prosecute anyone for doing the interigations that were ordered to be done. Not those that carried out the orders, but those who ordered the torture. They should go to jail for breaking the law. No one agreed to breaking the law. If you can find that, then they are and were wrong. Nobody is arguing against interrogations. The American People are arguing against the law being broken. Well, if we are going to let lawbreakers go, then why not them? See, if we are going to apply the law, then it must be applied equally to everybody. Do you agree with equal application of the law? Or not? I didn't have to be...The CIA documents that were released literally proved what Nancy Pelosi stated in the press conference...that the CIA did "not", I repeat, did "not" brief her on torture. That's a fact. No, CNN is calling her out on "not" telling anybody that she was told by one of her staffers that they were using torture. But remember, she never, never denied that a staffer told her about it. She stated that the CIA didn't tell her about it. What is the big problem? Nancy Pelosi told the truth and The CIA's transcripts proved that she told the truth. Nancy Pelosi didn't break the law and implimented illegal torture on terrorism suspects. The Bush Administration did that. She didn't lie. The Bush Administration broke the law of the United States (not to mention international laws) that we prosecuted and executed Japanese for doing (waterboarding). Should we not execute those who ordered waterboarding which is considered to be illegal torture by The U.S. and which Bush stated we dont' do (he literally said that the U.S. doesn't torture, now we come to find out that he lied)? I think that we should execute those who ordered the illegal torture like we executed the Japanese who used it against our men. What do you think? Should we prosecute lawbreakers and liers? Yes or no? |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 18, 2009 14:16:59 GMT -5
No, i think that they did what they had to do to keep us safe, i believe the cia and the head army officials are more intelligent on this than you or me. Lets let them do their job so we can live a safer life!
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 14:49:31 GMT -5
No, i think that they did what they had to do to keep us safe, i believe the cia and the head army officials are more intelligent on this than you or me. Lets let them do their job so we can live a safer life! So, you believe they can lie to the American People about WMDs in Iraq and get almost 5,000 soldiers killed for nothing? Ok. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 18, 2009 14:57:58 GMT -5
You dont know that they did not have them.... Bush did not lie to the americans on purpose if the wmd were not there, he went off of the special inteligence that he was given and made decisions based on that. However, i DONT think we should have done nothing after 2000 of our innocent people were killed on 911. In fact i think that it should be aired on tv every damn day so that people will remember how they felt that day. And i believe just about everyone wanted us to kill the people that did this to us. THATS WHAT I CALL PATRIOTIC!
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 15:07:56 GMT -5
You dont know that they did not have them.... The report came back that Iraq had no WMD's. Why can't you just accept that? Not only that, The CIA admitted that they had no evidence. What, now their lieing too? updated 9:24 p.m. ET, Mon., April 25, 2005 WASHINGTON - In his final word, the CIA’s top weapons inspector in Iraq said Monday that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction has “gone as far as feasible” and has found nothing, closing an investigation into the purported programs of Saddam Hussein that were used to justify the 2003 invasion.www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634313/Hmmm...let's see. Bush said we had evidence of WMD's in Iraq. No such evidence ever existed. I'd say that's a lie in New York (if not in Texas). Oh! So now it's the CIA's fault for lieing? Or are they incompetant? So which is it? Bush? Or The CIA? Wait, let's hear what The President has to say about The Iraq War and the connection to 9/11... |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 18, 2009 15:17:38 GMT -5
Im saying that "whoever" gave him the info that there were wmd there, might have been wrong, NOT INTENTIONALLY. Bush did a great job in capturing sudam hussain and killing his ass. I aplaud him. Now its time to get that other jerk off that was behind 911. Iraq is a terrorist country no dought so our work there is being done for a reason, they need to die.
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 16:09:34 GMT -5
Im saying that "whoever" gave him the info that there were wmd there, might have been wrong, NOT INTENTIONALLY. Bush did a great job in capturing sudam hussain and killing his ass. I aplaud him. Now its time to get that other jerk off that was behind 911. Iraq is a terrorist country no dought so our work there is being done for a reason, they need to die. A) Iraq was a 3rd world country when we invaded it and had nothing to do with 9/11. B) Bush knew that there were no WMD's before we went in (those that have quit his cabinet have testified to this...hello? Scott McClellan! Remember him? Or the other Bush Officials who told the world that he knew?) C) Iraq is not a terrorist country. We put Saddam Hussein in power in Iraq! We armed him! We built him up and supported him! D) We supported Osama Bin Ladin too! And you know who helped Osama and Saddam come into power? The CIA!  |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 18, 2009 16:44:34 GMT -5
If iraq is not a terrorist country then why the hell are they there? Afganistan too!
You sure do sound unamerican to me. Wes just read your post and is mad.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 18, 2009 16:51:09 GMT -5
You know what...we may have gave him power, but we sure as the hell took it BACK! What now! HA! Im a PROUD AMERICAN AND I SUPPORT MY COUNTRY AND ARMED FORCES!
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 17:10:51 GMT -5
If iraq is not a terrorist country then why the hell are they there? Afganistan too! You sure do sound unamerican to me. Wes just read your post and is mad. Why did Bush go to Iraq if not for WMD's? Hmmm...could it be because his Daddy failed to get Saddam in the first war? LOL! And, we're in Afghanistan because they attacked New York and D.C.! That's where we should've been all this time! Not in Iraq (that never attacked us!). And! Me UnAmerican? Which one of you two actually joined the military and was willing to put your life on the line for our country "after" 9/11? Huh? Tell you what...I was...AND DID! So save it for the rebel flag waving sister lovers! Let me tell you what I yelled at the top of my lungs every morning: I am an American Soldier.
I am a Warrior and member of a team. I serve the people of the United States and live the Army Values.
I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.
I am disciplined,. physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills. I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.
I am guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American Soldier.HOOAH! What did you do after 9/11? Did you volunteer to serve your country? Or do you just presume to sit and judge those who don't believe what you believe to be "unamerican" without even having lifted a finger to provide that same freedom you currently enjoy?  It's amazing how people with country accents think that their the only Patriots in the United States! Geesh! Enjoy the freedom I contributed to providing for you. I don't expect your gratitude, but certainly not your insults to my service either. Next time you see a Soldier who doesn't agree with The Iraqi War, thank them for putting it on the line anyway! |
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