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Post by Cepha on Jun 6, 2009 14:13:16 GMT -5
Steven, they wanted to have homosexual sex with them. Right, that's sodomy. Sodomy is the actual "act" regardless of what the sex of the person is. I never said that I knew about your body and how it relates to enjoying sex...only that I know that you only have 1 sexual organ as a woman and the use of any other part of your body for sexual gratification is the misuse of the body God gave you. That goes for any man or woman (not just at you). |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 6, 2009 14:21:24 GMT -5
I wasn't talking about anal sex.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 6, 2009 14:28:58 GMT -5
I wasn't talking about anal sex. Neither was I. |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 6, 2009 14:31:26 GMT -5
 Nevermind.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 6, 2009 14:46:16 GMT -5
Nevermind.  LOL! |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 6, 2009 14:55:02 GMT -5
Lol, you could have stoped talking about it if you wanted to as well.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 6, 2009 15:12:55 GMT -5
Lol, you could have stoped talking about it if you wanted to as well. LOL! |
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Post by watchman on Jun 6, 2009 15:53:05 GMT -5
"Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-11Sodomite –noun 1. an inhabitant of Sodom. 2. (lowercase) a person who engages in sodomy. I know I said I was out of this thread but I must correct a wrong cepha tried perpetrate. He said that the Bible says all sodomites were sinners and he went on to say anyone who has oral with the opposite sex was included as a sodomite. Well surprisingly enough that is not what the Bible says. The Bible says this. 1st Cor 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. The word effeminate that cepha claim is translated homosexual is actually translated calamite which is a young boy who has sexual relations with a grown man. The phrase ''abusers of themselves with man kind'' can be translated as sodomite, but it has nothing to do with women or oral sex, it literally translated as a man who shared a spermed in bed with another man. So the only difference between and effeminate and an abuser of themselves with man kind is the age of the man. An effeminate is a young boy homosexual, and an abuser of themselves with man kind is a grown man homosexual. This passage has nothing at all do to with any type of heteral-sexual sex, outside of the reference to fornicators, and adulterers which would not include married people who remain faithful to one another.. |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 10:23:09 GMT -5
"Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-11Sodomite –noun 1. an inhabitant of Sodom. 2. (lowercase) a person who engages in sodomy. I know I said I was out of this thread but I must correct a wrong cepha tried perpetrate. He said that the Bible says all sodomites were sinners and he went on to say anyone who has oral with the opposite sex was included as a sodomite. Well surprisingly enough that is not what the Bible says. The Bible says this. 1st Cor 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. The word effeminate that cepha claim is translated homosexual is actually translated calamite which is a young boy who has sexual relations with a grown man. The phrase ''abusers of themselves with man kind'' can be translated as sodomite, but it has nothing to do with women or oral sex, it literally translated as a man who shared a spermed in bed with another man. So the only difference between and effeminate and an abuser of themselves with man kind is the age of the man. An effeminate is a young boy homosexual, and an abuser of themselves with man kind is a grown man homosexual. This passage has nothing at all do to with any type of heteral-sexual sex, outside of the reference to fornicators, and adulterers which would not include married people who remain faithful to one another.. Listen, if you want to believe that a woman sodomizing a man and vice/versa is honourable to God, go right ahead. Me? I don't care if its hetero or homo sexual, whether their married or not. It is a sin to use non-sexual body parts for deviant sexual (which you refer to as "peverse") behavior. So, I guess what God calls "honourable", you call "peverse"? It's settled. You've done a great job of proving that you believe that God finds what you call peverse & un-Christian behavior...honourable as long as the couple are married. And, a sodomizer is one who has anal sex (not just homosexual anal sex). www.Dictionary.comsodomize –verb (used with object), -ized, -iz⋅ing. to subject to sodomy; commit sodomy upon.  |
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Post by watchman on Jun 8, 2009 11:40:57 GMT -5
I know I said I was out of this thread but I must correct a wrong cepha tried perpetrate. He said that the Bible says all sodomites were sinners and he went on to say anyone who has oral with the opposite sex was included as a sodomite. Well surprisingly enough that is not what the Bible says. The Bible says this. 1st Cor 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. The word effeminate that cepha claim is translated homosexual is actually translated calamite which is a young boy who has sexual relations with a grown man. The phrase ''abusers of themselves with man kind'' can be translated as sodomite, but it has nothing to do with women or oral sex, it literally translated as a man who shared a spermed in bed with another man. So the only difference between and effeminate and an abuser of themselves with man kind is the age of the man. An effeminate is a young boy homosexual, and an abuser of themselves with man kind is a grown man homosexual. This passage has nothing at all do to with any type of heteral-sexual sex, outside of the reference to fornicators, and adulterers which would not include married people who remain faithful to one another.. Listen, if you want to believe that a woman sodomizing a man and vice/versa is honourable to God, go right ahead. Me? I don't care if its hetero or homo sexual, whether their married or not. It is a sin to use non-sexual body parts for deviant sexual (which you refer to as "peverse") behavior. So, I guess what God calls "honourable", you call "peverse"? I never said pleasuring your wife was perverse I said a man taking a strap on was perverse. If you believe it is a sin to pleasure your wife, then it is to you, but not to me. God made sex pleasurable so that we would enjoy it and I do. My wife is a very Christian, chaste, virtuous woman, and she has not problem with me pleasuring her, not to mention as I have stated God's word say it is honorable. So if I were you I wouldn't do anything that went against my conscience, but for me my conscience is clear. ;D |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 11:52:56 GMT -5
I never said pleasuring your wife was perverse I said a man taking a strap on was perverse. Ok. I accept that that is your belief. Drugs give pleasure, sin gives pleasure, lust gives pleasure...not all that "pleases" is good. And marriage does not erase the sin of a sin (except that of fornication...sexual relations outside of marriage). Not only do you enjoy belittling other's abilities to please women, but now you brag about your own "very personal" intimate relations with your wife? You dishonor her by speaking about her like that on a public forum. Even if she likes that kind of talk, it's still wrong. Your relations should be between you too. If you believe it's ok to sodomize your wife and it's honourable and that God feels this way too, why do you call it perverse at the same time? Can a man "pleasure" his wife with an impliment? (as long as their married?) |
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Post by watchman on Jun 8, 2009 12:19:39 GMT -5
Not only do you enjoy belittling other's abilities to please women, but now you brag about your own "very personal" intimate relations with your wife? You dishonor her by speaking about her like that on a public forum. Even if she likes that kind of talk, it's still wrong. Your relations should be between you too. If you believe it's ok to sodomize your wife and it's honourable and that God feels this way too, why do you call it perverse at the same time? Can a man "pleasure" his wife with an impliment? (as long as their married?) I didn't call it perverse, once again I called a man taking a strap on perverse, I wouldn't use an impliment to please my wife. |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 12:24:01 GMT -5
Not only do you enjoy belittling other's abilities to please women, but now you brag about your own "very personal" intimate relations with your wife? You dishonor her by speaking about her like that on a public forum. Even if she likes that kind of talk, it's still wrong. Your relations should be between you too. If you believe it's ok to sodomize your wife and it's honourable and that God feels this way too, why do you call it perverse at the same time? Can a man "pleasure" his wife with an impliment? (as long as their married?) I didn't call it perverse, once again I called a man taking a strap on perverse, I wouldn't use an impliment to please my wife. Are you now saying that a woman sodomizing a man is now "not" perverse? |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 12:25:20 GMT -5
Wait wait wait! Hold on...Watchman, are you now saying that they "can" do things sexually that are "dishonourable" EVEN though their married despite the scripture you posted? What I am saying is anyone who is truly serving God is not going to be taking it in the butt even if they are ''allowed'' to because it is perverse, not that they cannot, but that they will not. Here you are calling sodomy "perverse". Do you deny it? (notice no mention of any impliment there when you responded to me, just your response to my point on a woman sodomizing a man) |
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Post by watchman on Jun 8, 2009 12:41:35 GMT -5
Are you now saying that a woman sodomizing a man is now "not" perverse? I do not know what you mean by sodomize, according to your definition, not all forms of sodomy is perverse. What I said was perverse in a woman strapping on and a man receive the implement. That is perverse, and that is all I have called perverse in this thread so, you can twist my words until you are blue in the face it just shows you are a deceiver. |
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Post by watchman on Jun 8, 2009 12:43:26 GMT -5
What I am saying is anyone who is truly serving God is not going to be taking it in the butt even if they are ''allowed'' to because it is perverse, not that they cannot, but that they will not. Here you are calling sodomy "perverse". Do you deny it? (notice no mention of any impliment there when you responded to me, just your response to my point on a woman sodomizing a man) Once again as proof from your post all I ever called perverse was a man taking a strap on in his butt. Anything else you contribute to me referring to a perverse is a lie. |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 13:19:42 GMT -5
Here you are calling sodomy "perverse". Do you deny it? (notice no mention of any impliment there when you responded to me, just your response to my point on a woman sodomizing a man) Once again as proof from your post all I ever called perverse was a man taking a strap on in his butt. Anything else you contribute to me referring to a perverse is a lie. No, no, no! If that were true, you'd post that proof here instead of just "saying" it was so and expecting us to believe that! LOL! Fact is, in the post that you responded to, it said anything that was done in the maritual bed (that automatically includeds women and men sodomizing each other)! ;D You said that you didn't call sodomy perverse. I posted proof you did. Period. |
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 8, 2009 13:22:00 GMT -5
is it ok to smoke crack with your spouse in bed? LOL
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 8, 2009 13:23:34 GMT -5
Lol Heather.
This convo is getting ridunclulus.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 13:23:41 GMT -5
is it ok to smoke crack with your spouse in bed? LOL Yeah, that's "honourable"! LMCBO!  |
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Nevermind.