Post by Cepha on Jun 23, 2009 10:24:50 GMT -5
Hmmm...what political party did Sanger belong to?
The Republican Party.
Wrong answer! She was on the same side of the political spectrum as yourself -- the left. Here's the truth from some bio's on Margaret Sanger:
A) I am not a Lefty.
B) Here's a site stating that she was a Republican...
A Socialist who became a registered Republican.'' Also a champion of freedom who favored semicoercive eugenics programs and an atheist who believed in spirits and premonitions.
74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:L_ko617A1g0J:www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,310857,00.html+margaret+sanger+republican&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Do you deny that she was a Republican?
I haven't found any evidence (online at least) that she "wasn't" a Republican.
Have you?
Would you be so kind to provide these so-called facts that it was the "Republican Party that LEGALIZED abortion" As far as I can tell, this is just your opinion and, NO, a few Rockefeller Republicans (RINO's) do not represent the party.
In the 1973 case, Roe v. Wade, the United States Supreme Court struck down state laws banning abortion, ruling that such laws violated an implied right to privacy in the United States Constitution.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion#Abortion_law
Who controlled The White House & The Supreme Court when abortion was legalized?
The Republican Party.
vox-nova.com/2008/05/22/were-republican-appointed-justices-who-favored-roe-in-1973-liberal/
Roe v. Wade came before a Supreme Court whose make-up was six Republican-appointed Justices and three Democratic-appointed Justices.
Do you even know any Republicans? Some of these generalizations you sling about are not only absurd, but very uncharitable. Time again for some of the Word that refreshes.
Of course I know Republicans.
Granted, I don't see any at any of the charitable events I've participated in helping the poor and such, but I know a lot of them who play golf.
;D
As far as my words being "generalizations", question:
Which political party had the White House/Congress/Senate for 6 years running in recent history where laws could've been forwarded that would've stopped abortion?
The GOP did plenty against the murderous onslought of many in the Democratic party. There were countless numbers of legislative acts (federal & state) throughout the country to preserve the life of the unborn. Google is your friend. Another invaluable resource on legislative actions on the pro-life front is the NRLC. Link: nrlc.www.capwiz.com/nrlc/issues/
Like my father used to say..."99 cents don't make a dollar."
Know what that means?
"Almost" is not enough.
They could've stopped it.
They didn't stop it.
That is an undeniable fact.
My argument wasn't that Republicans did more to lessen abortions. That's a given. That was never in debate here.
My point is that under Republican rule and under Republican majority, they A) legalized abortion and B) didn't stop it when they had the chance.
Everybody knows that The Democrats aren't going to do anything to stop it!
LOL!
I wouldn't dare even debate that...but we're talking about The Republican Party here and their failure to (with ownership of The White House, The Senate and The Congress) stop abortion.
Now, who do you think signed the Partial Birth Abortion ban into law? Republican, President Bush. Who do you think vetoed it multiple times? Democrat, Bill Clinton. Who do you think kept putting forth the so-called Freedom of Choice Act during that period? Democrats. Who do you think opposed it and continues to? Republicans. Who do you think put restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research? Republicans? Who is now leading the way in allowing federal funding for embryonic stem cell destruction? The democrats. Who supported the Mexico City policy and thus did not allow any federal money to go to oversee abortion providers? Republicans. Who overturned the Mexico City policy as soon as Obama got into office? Democrats. Please, please, take an honest look at the REAL facts.
You won't get an argment here.
This isn't (for me) an Repub V. Dem debate.
The Dems are 100% wrong on the issue.
My debate is how Reps had full power and didn't stop abortion.
Do you deny that?
It's not that they "lessened" abortion.
I'm not one of those "lukewarm" anti-abortionists.
I'm 100% against abortion, it's not "okay" that they did "something" to stop "some" abortions when they could've done everything to stop ALL abortions.
Again, I'm 100% against abortion.
Thers is no gray area for me on this.
Even allowing "most" abortions to continue is horrible to me.
That is truly a reason to celebrate, but those great numbers can in no way be attributed to the party that shares the same disdain for the unborn as Margaret Sanger. Those numbers should be rightly attributed to the pro-life efforts of many, many wonderful organizations that support life and most objective observers can agree that they would be on the political right.
Well, it didn''t happen under Republican rule, I'll tell you that!
LOL!
Facts are facts.
However those numbers exploded to now be 51% Pro-Life,
it happened under a Democrat controlled White House/Senate/Congress.
During Republican rule, the country was Pro-Choice.
But then again, the country has always done better under Democratic rule in the past few decade or two.
And as everybody knows, when the economy goes up, abortions go down! And who are the kings of producing strong economies?
The Democrats!
LOL... I think you meant to say "strong-ARMED economies."
Whatever it takes to undo the fiscal irresponsibility of The Republicans, so be it!
;D
