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Post by Cepha on Jul 21, 2009 12:47:56 GMT -5
Well, from what you say here, that as long as your mother is a U.S. Citizen you can be born anywhere and be a natural born citizen.....WELL, that would be the same as McCain, BOTH his parents were american..DOES NOT MATTER WHERE he was born.  The difference is, no party ever contested the "Americaness" of the white Presidential candidate...only the black one.  |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jul 21, 2009 12:49:55 GMT -5
But your trying to imply that obama is more american than mccain and it is silly
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Post by Cepha on Jul 21, 2009 12:51:28 GMT -5
If it doesn't matter, why all the hubub? LOL! And, he can be removed from office "legally" IF the American people wanted it to be so. But, since he's doing a great job, and more than 1/2 of the country (remember, majority rules here) approve of his work, there'll be none of that! LOL! The economy is stablizing, the rate of unemployment has drastically slowed down, and, with less than 10% of the Stimulus Package actually spent, we are already seeing major banks that were on the brink of collapse not only paying the money back in record time, but for the first time in years, actually posting profits again! USA! USA! USA! ;D According to Gallup... economic conditions are poor... www.gallup.com/home.aspxUh, yeah..."before" President Obama, it was considered to be even "worse".... www.gallup.com/poll/25924/Sign-Uptick-Consumer-Views-Economy.aspx ;D So! With President Obama! It's seen as better! OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA!  |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 21, 2009 12:53:04 GMT -5
But your trying to imply that obama is more american than mccain and it is silly There you go again with the "implying"... I just said that President Obama was actually born " in" America and Senator McCain was born in a foreign country  . You make of that what you will. ;D |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jul 22, 2009 11:56:01 GMT -5
Just another email i got... ;D
You Obama supporters, be honest now. Read the following and tell me howyou would have reacted:
If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky?
If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the
non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?
If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with
people who cannot seem to keep current on their income taxes, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the fourth of May (Cuatro de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment?
If George W. Bush had miss-spelled the word advice would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as "proof" of what a dunce he is?
If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on "Earth Day", would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?
If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually "get" what happened on 9-11?
If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?
If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims
throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?
If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major
corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which hadtaken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again 10 times within years, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?
So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all the above in just 5 months -- so be patient you've still got three years and seven months to come up with an answer...
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Post by teresahrc on Jul 22, 2009 18:39:07 GMT -5
Wow, I'm jealous of whoever was taken to NYC to see the play. Did Obama take Michelle there and spend all that money for her?
Too bad we aren't seeing a lot of Republicans do that for their wives. Or maybe they are, please correct me if I'm wrong.
The more times I have to read the name "George W. Bush" no matter what the context, I can't help but appreciate Obama even more.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jul 22, 2009 22:52:19 GMT -5
Wow, you must have really read the post I know the word "Bush" is a lil disturbing to yall, but did you read what all obama has done? Do you agree with them? |
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Post by teresahrc on Jul 23, 2009 17:24:22 GMT -5
Do I agree with every single thing Obama has ever said or done? Of course not!!
But he is doing a really good job as President. It's laughable to me to compare Bush and Obama. Mistakes in speaking spanish? Is that a big deal? I thought "they" were supposed to learn English anyway! LOL! Why should our President be fluent in spanish?
Obama would be doing even better if he didn't have to spend so much of his time cleaning up Bush's mistakes.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jul 23, 2009 18:01:48 GMT -5
Ok, cepha is rubbing off on you now... LOL
Any dumbXXX knows what cinco de mayo is!
The point of the email is that everyone came down on bush, but not on the holy obama for his mistakes. Double standard ya think...
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Post by Cepha on Jul 24, 2009 12:22:47 GMT -5
Just another email i got... ;D You Obama supporters, be honest now. Read the following and tell me howyou would have reacted: No. I wouldn't care. That seems trivial to me what two men give each other. Personally, I could care less what we give to our former oppressors who we had to fight to take our liberty from! No. I prefer he would've bowed to the king than to kiss him and walk around holding his hand like a little girl in love!   Hmmm, you mean likkkke, THIS! LMCBO! You mean, like these? LOL! The 25 Most Corrupt Members of the Bush Administration are: Claude Allen, White House
Eric Andell, U.S. Department of Education
Margaret Burnette, Food and Drug Administration
Lester Crawford, Food and Drug Administration
Lurita Doan, General Services Administration
Brian Doyle, U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Darleen Druyun, U.S. Air Force
Frank Figueroa, U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, Central Intelligence Agency
J. Steven Griles, U.S. Department of the Interior
Andrea Grimsley, U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Donald Keyser, U.S. Department of State
John Korsmo, Federal Housing Finance Board
Kevin Marlowe, U.S. Department of Defense
Jose Miranda, Broadcasting Board of Governors
William Myers, U.S. Department of Interior
Janet Rehnquist, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
David Safavian, White House and General Services Administration
Robert Schofield, U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Thomas Scully, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
David Smith, Department of Interior
Jeffrey Stayton, U.S. Department of the Army
Robert Stein, Coalition Provisional Authority
Roger Stillwell, U.S. Department of the Interior
Kenneth Tomlinson, Corporation for Public Broadcastingwww.citizensforethics.org/node/27182OMG! Everything this Radical Right Wing Extremist site is posting, Bush did 10 times worse! LOL! Talk throwing stones in a glass house! LOL!  Aint this supposed to be an"English Only" country for "you" folkes? LOL! Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you misspell "miss-spelled"? misspell –verb 1. to spell incorrectly. dictionary.reference.com/browse/misspelled(I guess that's what you get for copying and pasting from morons! LOL!)  What? R U kidding! George Bush has taken more vacations than any other President in history! Imagine how many gallons of jet fuel he wasted? LOL! Well, George Bush "Okayed" flying Osama Bin Ladin's family OUT OF THE COUNTRY after Osama Bin Ladin attacked us on 9/11! Hmmm...President Obama gives excellent speeches and has a command of The English Language. Former President Bush can't get through one sentence without flubbing his words. I'd say, he NEEDED a telemprompter! Let's see them again! Hurricane Katrina Left a Mark on George W. Bush’s Presidency By Kenneth T. Walsh Posted December 11, 2008 www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2008/12/11/hurricane-katrina-left-a-mark-on-george-w-bushs-presidency.htmlBush to visit bridge collapse site www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22181842-1702,00.html Hmmm...Bush ignores Katrina victims (mostly black) and just does a fly over, but runs to Minneapolis site (mostly white) and gives them instant response. Racism? Or coincidence? You tell me! If we as a country owned the majority stock in the company and this CEO was failing, absolutely! ;D Of course not, but he did leave this country with a Trillion Dollar Debt after having inherited a Trillion Dollar surplus from Clinton (so, in effect, he did double our debt from positive 1 Tril, to negative 1 Tril). If he had inherited a Trillion Dollar deficit and had to do this to begin to reduce the deficit, I would approve (that's what President Obama had to do to undo what George Bush and the Republican Party left us with after 6 years in total power). Remember, this 10 year debt didn't happen in the 1st month of the current Presidency, but in the 8 years leading up to it. Hell yeah! ;D He did...all the time. I never had a problem when he did it. Well, he rescued us from a depression, he can speak proper English, he finished top at his school, he is a self made man, he has put in a plan that now has the Stock Market to it's highest level since last year, he has garnered the cooperation from the rest of the world, he's intelligent, he has the respect of most Republicans, etc., etc., etc.... You mean more than what I've listed? Ok, when he had the opportunity to go get some fat cat Wall Street job for a million dollars a year, he (in the Catholic tradition) chose to serve the poor and took a job that payed much, much less. He built his career fighting racism and bigotry and abuse of the poor. He remained married to the same woman without getting divorced and is an excellent father. He's an excellent role model to all Americans that hard work and perseverance will overcome all obstacles and that anybody (not just Rich People's Kids) can become President of The United States. If you want more, just let me now... I know! Isn't it great! He's stabilized the economy that Bush messed up! The rate of unemployment has gone down! Housing sales are rebounding! The Stock Market (again) is rebounding! There are negotiations going on between old enemies! Russia is allowing us to fly over their airspace in order to more efficiently supply our troops! Under The Obama Presidency, for the first time since RoeVWade, more Americans are PRO-LIFE! It's incredible all of the great things that are happening! You're right! If he's done this great in only 5 months, imagine how much better off we're going to be in the next 3 1/2 years! OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA!  |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 24, 2009 12:55:10 GMT -5
Wow, I'm jealous of whoever was taken to NYC to see the play. Did Obama take Michelle there and spend all that money for her? Too bad we aren't seeing a lot of Republicans do that for their wives. Or maybe they are, please correct me if I'm wrong. The more times I have to read the name "George W. Bush" no matter what the context, I can't help but appreciate Obama even more. Well, while President Obama is being criticized for being a loyal romantic to his wife, Republicans are cheating on theirs. |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 24, 2009 12:56:18 GMT -5
Wow, you must have really read the post I know the word "Bush" is a lil disturbing to yall, but did you read what all obama has done? Do you agree with them? Not to me! I lovvvvvvvvvvvvvve talking about Bush! LOL! You were the one who would get mad if I exposed his faults! LOL! Please Marcie! Please bring him up more often! Please keep reminding us of the bad old days! LOL! |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 24, 2009 13:01:26 GMT -5
Ok, cepha is rubbing off on you now... LOL Any dumbXXX knows what cinco de mayo is! The point of the email is that everyone came down on bush, but not on the holy obama for his mistakes. Double standard ya think... That's 3. One more curse and your banned Marcie. I gave you 3 more chances than I gave anybody else. I've been playing favorite with you, but it's not fair to those I banned for cursing So, you have to live by the same rules that everybody else does. Ok? |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jul 24, 2009 13:23:42 GMT -5
Im ok with that....dont really care to be honest, just speaking my mind and it was not GEARED toward anyone ALSO did not spell it out, but you got my drift!
Please dont play favorite, that is why i asked not to be a mod.
Cant you tell that not many are posting here anyways. Its not because of me...i think it is your extreme views and opinions!
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jul 24, 2009 13:25:01 GMT -5
Obama is an idiot for not getting that one right... 3rd graders know what cinco de mayo is!! LMBO
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Post by Cepha on Jul 24, 2009 13:43:06 GMT -5
Im ok with that....dont really care to be honest, just speaking my mind and it was not GEARED toward anyone ALSO did not spell it out, but you got my drift! Please dont play favorite, that is why i asked not to be a mod. Cant you tell that not many are posting here anyways. Its not because of me...i think it is your extreme views and opinions! Cool. And of course no one's posting here...not because of my extremist views (because I'm a moderate by far), but because their too extremists and can't stand to be "owned" by a moderate. I'm a Blue Dog Democrat (Conservative). That's on the political side. On the theological side, they get owned too or some just don't want to debate with a Catholic who can "actually" answer their questions and who won't lay down when his religion is being kicked. ;D Love you Marcie!  |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Aug 10, 2009 11:38:36 GMT -5
Got this email today....Cepha im sure you can tell us if the translations are correct, i have not a clue.
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Post by Cepha on Aug 11, 2009 9:04:58 GMT -5
Got this email today....Cepha im sure you can tell us if the translations are correct, i have not a clue. I looked it up Marcie. I always knew his name was Hebrew, but if you look at the video and see hwo they play with the name, they are literally bending the word to mean what it says. Here's what I found (Oh, and by the way, don't trust anything that you get in your email without testing it first. It's good you "asked" before you believed in it): Barack Obama's first name is the anglicized version of Baraka, which means 'blessing' in Kiswahili (aka Swahili), a language spoken by Senator Obama's Kenyan father.
The word "Barack" is shared among several languages. First, it is a word in the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages) Semitic family of languages. As such it mistakenly has been thought to have the root in Hebrew written as baruch, but since the word Barak in Hebrew exists independently, pronounced as Barak with no twisting of sounds, it is the true word from which any meaning should be taken. A version in Aramaic (berek), a version in Arabic (baraka). (See Strong's Hebrew Bible Dictionary, entries 1288-1294.) It also occurs as a loan word in non-Semitic languages that have been influenced by these Semitic languages, such as Kiswahili (the most widely spoken African language). As often happens, cognate words are similar in pronunciation. What appears in a later-appearing language may sound like something else in the earlier language. And in English we sometimes see words that are pronounced the same and even spelled the same, but that have very different meanings.
Baraka means 'blessing' in Kiswahili and comes from the Arabic spoken by the Omani Arabs that lived and traded along the coast of East Africa. Though it came to Kiswahili from Arabic it no longer has any sectarian connotations and is in common use amongst East Africans of all faiths. It is a common name for boys in Kenya and Tanzania.
Barack or Barak means 'lightning' in Hebrew. The name Barak is also mentioned in the Bible in the book of Judges. Barak was part of the story of the prophetess Deborah.
Baruch (or Baruwk, Baruk, Strong, 1263) and its cognates berek and baraka all mean the same. Strong, 1288, says "barak, baw-rak', a primitive root; to kneel; by implication to bless God (as an act of adoration), and (vice-versa) man (as a benefit)." (See www.virtualchristiancenter.com/biblestudytools/kjvstrongs/STRHEB12.htm)
Regardless of how one spells the name, it gives two possible and not contradictory meanings, and one true meaning. One is "a blessing from God," and another is "a blessing from God that the individual may pass on to others as a benefit to them." and the true meaning that cannot be translated any other way is the name Barak which means Lightning. wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_origin_of_the_name_BarackAnd... The boy's name Baruch \b(a)-ru-ch\ is pronounced BAR-ook. It is of Hebrew origin, and its meaning is "blessed". Biblical: one Baruch was Jeremiah's scribe-secretary. Many languages have a form of this name: in English, Benedict; in Italian, Benedetto; in French, Benoit; in Spanish, Benito. American philanthropist Bernard Baruch.
Baruch has 3 variant forms: Baruchi, Baruj and Boruch.
Baby names that sound like Baruch are Barack, Bearach, Birch and Burch.
Baruch is a very rare male first name and a popular surname (source: 1990 U.S. Census).
Displayed below is the baby name popularity trend for the boy's name Baruch.
Compare Baruch with related baby names and variants. www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/BaruchSo, basically, since Barack is the English version of that name in the video, then Benedict (as in Pope Benedict) must mean the same since it is a derivitive of the name Baruch which is where the name Barack comes from. In other words, according to the logic of the video of an English word (which by the way doesen't appear in The Holy Bible since The Holy Bible was written not in English, but in Hebrew and Greek), Pope Benedict could be "evil".  |
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Post by Cepha on Aug 11, 2009 9:08:56 GMT -5
Got this email today....Cepha im sure you can tell us if the translations are correct, i have not a clue. By the way...check this response to that video (notice that that video cites a "reconstructionist Jewish sect" as a source and doesn't allow for anybody to respond to the video directly to counter their allegations?): anumma.com/2009/08/05/anti-christ-video-debunked/“I will report the facts.” Nearly of these “facts” are false:
“Jesus spoke these words originally in Aramaic…” This is not known. It may be that Jesus preached both in Aramaic and in the Greek of the New Testament. If he did preach in Aramaic, there is no reason to be optimistic about our ability to retrovert the Greek of the gospels into that alleged Aramaic original. Imagine giving an English translation of Don Qixote to twelve English-speaking scholars who had never heard Spanish spoken by a native, and having them all retrovert the English translation to the original Spanish. Know how many completely different “originals” you’d get? That’s right: twelve.
“…which is the oldest form of Hebrew.” No, it isn’t. Aramaic doesn’t precede Hebrew. They are sibling languages, with significant differences in vocabulary, morphology, and grammar. So, speaking in Hebrew is not “much the same way” as the way Jesus would have spoken Aramaic.
“…from the heights, or from the heavens.” Nice try: the speaker has substituted “heights” (in order to get to bamah, the word he wants to use) for “heavens” (shamayim, a word he wants to get away from because shamayim sounds nothing like “Barack Obama”). The argument from this point is not based on Jesus’ words (in any language), but on a paraphrase that the speaker finds convenient.
(We could stop here: Now that we see that the groundwork comprises crippling falsehoods, it is clear that anything built on it is pointless. We’ll continue anyway, just for the exercise.)
“…from Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary.” As Bryan mentioned on Facebook, When someone grounds their argument in the use of Strong’s concordance/dictionary, they are saying, “I do not know any Hebrew. Do not trust anything I say on the topic.” Strong’s is a tool designed for people who do not know Hebrew.
Baraq is the Hebrew word for lightning: this is a fact. It has nothing to do with the name of our President, but baraq does mean “lightning.” Barack, our President’s name, is Swahili, and related to Hebrew Berekh, “to bless.” (Think of the better known form, Barukh, “blessed.”) In other words, why would a speaker of Hebrew (or Aramaic, or Greek) would use the word “lightning” to evoke the Swahili (or Arabic) name, Barak = “blessed/blessing”?
Isaiah 14: No mention of Satan here: Isaiah is plainly talking about the king of Babylon, whom he compares to the mythic “Daystar, son of Dawn.” He says so [ref. added: Isa 14:4]. But, the Jesus of the gospel Luke may be evoking Isaiah when he says that he “saw Satan falling as lightning from the heavens,” so I’ll give this a pass.
Isa 14:14: “I will ascend above the heights of the clouds.” That’s right: the word “heights” (which, you’ll recall, Jesus does not use anyway) is not associated with the falling of the Daystar, but with his (planned but not certainly achieved) ascent. Also, the “heights” are plural: the phrase is bamotê-ʿab, “the heights of the cloud.” Hear it? Not bamah, but bamotê.
“Some scholars use the O [to transliterate the conjunction waw].” No, they don’t, because it is never, never pronounced “O.” The prefixed conjunction we- or wa- becomes u- in biblical Hebrew when it precedes a bilabial consonant (b, m, p) or any consonant followed by the shewa, or half vowel (Cĕ-; think of the first vowel in a casual pronunciation of “America” or “aloof”). It is never o-. Sorry, but never.
“…or, ‘lightning from the heights.’” Okay, in the second place, the conjunction never means “from.” Hebrew (or Aramaic) has a preposition for that. The phrase baraq u-bamah (not o-bamah) will mean, “lightning and a height” (whatever the heck that is; also remember that baraq has nothing to do with “Barack”). The phrase will never, never mean “lightning from the heights.” Sorry, but never. (And in the first place, remember, Jesus never even said, “lightning from the heights.” He said, “lightning from the heavens,” which is why all this stuff about “heights” is pointless.)
Conclusion: if a Jewish rabbi today, influenced by Isaiah, were to say the words of Jesus in Luke 10:18 (seriously: why would our rabbi do this?), he would not say, “Barakh Obama.” He would not even say, baraq u-bama. Or baraq u-bamoth (lightning and heights). If he means to use Jesus’ words, he would not even say, baraq min-habbamoth (lightning from the heights). I suppose he might (might) say, baraq min-hashamayim (lightning from the heavens). So now you know why our secret Muslim president’s Arabic Kenyan birth certificate remains hidden in a clandestine madrassah in the Lincoln Bedroom: because on it, you will indeed find the true name of the antichrist…
(oh, wait, neither Isaiah, Luke, or even Revelation [or Daniel, if you care] use the word “antichrist”: it is used in the letters of John as a generic term for “unbelievers”)
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Post by alfie on Aug 15, 2009 16:35:53 GMT -5
From what I have read the State of Hawaii produced a "Certificate of Live Birth" rather than a birth certificate to prove Obama was born in the U.S. A Certificate of Live Birth isn't the same as a birth certificate so it is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and his administration is covering for him.
There are other important things we don't know about Obama like why are there no college records for him? Also why are there no passport records concerning him when he visited Pakistan at a time when Americans were banned from the country?
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