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Post by emily445455 on Apr 16, 2008 19:08:16 GMT -5
I'll take the class.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 19:37:20 GMT -5
Prepare yourself. You're going to be shocked into reality. When you get in there, ask them if there was ever a bible that existed before the 16th Century that only had 66 books and ask them whey The Protestants took out 7 books out of the original King James bible 100 years after it was created! ;D |
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Post by alfie on Apr 16, 2008 20:23:11 GMT -5
Prepare yourself. You're going to be shocked into reality. When you get in there, ask them if there was ever a bible that existed before the 16th Century that only had 66 books and ask them whey The Protestants took out 7 books out of the original King James bible 100 years after it was created! ;D Very amusing! You know exactly why the reformers removed the Deuterocanical books because they were not inspired by the Holy Spirit and they were added to the Latin Vulgate in order to justify Catholic teachings like purgatory. And just for the record the Orthodox have more books in their Bible than the Catholics have in their Bible. At one time the Catholic Church removed the book of Hebrews and than added it later on to the Bible and because it was originally not part of the Bible that is why Luther removed it. |
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 16, 2008 20:28:34 GMT -5
I know there were Bibles before the 16th c.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 20:29:37 GMT -5
Prepare yourself. You're going to be shocked into reality. When you get in there, ask them if there was ever a bible that existed before the 16th Century that only had 66 books and ask them whey The Protestants took out 7 books out of the original King James bible 100 years after it was created! ;D Very amusing! You know exactly why the reformers removed the Deuterocanical books because they were not inspired by the Holy Spirit and they were added to the Latin Vulgate in order to justify Catholic teachings like purgatory. And just for the record the Orthodox have more books in their Bible than the Catholics have in their Bible. At one time the Catholic Church removed the book of Hebrews and than added it later on to the Bible and because it was originally not part of the Bible that is why Luther removed it. The Reformers didn't remove the books, the Protestants did.  |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 20:30:07 GMT -5
I know there were Bibles before the 16th c. One that only had 66 books if it was the original bible...name it. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 20:31:11 GMT -5
M, just let me know when you get to class why the original KJV had 73 books as canonical and a hundred years later, all of a sudden, they were thought to "not" be canonical anymore. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 16, 2008 20:34:06 GMT -5
M, if your not scared to know the history of the KJV JUST GOOGLE IT! You cant say you dont have time, cause you are always on this board! |
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 16, 2008 20:41:13 GMT -5
K, I'll let you know, when I take the class.
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Post by alfie on Apr 21, 2008 22:34:00 GMT -5
Prepare yourself. You're going to be shocked into reality. When you get in there, ask them if there was ever a bible that existed before the 16th Century that only had 66 books and ask them whey The Protestants took out 7 books out of the original King James bible 100 years after it was created! ;D How could the protestants be criticized for removing 7 books from the Bible when there was no set canon until the council of Trent? We still wouln't have a set canon if Luther had not forced the Catholic Church to define what they believed was the Bible. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 23, 2008 21:06:03 GMT -5
Misindoctrination again. Canon was settled in Nicea. 397 AD. At least for all Christians at Nicea. For Denominational Christians 1100 years "later", they used our canon to base theirs editing it to their specific tastes (for example, JW's have NWT, Non-Denom's have NIV, Prots have KJV, etc...). Ah yes, Luther, the one who "added" words to The Bible and who wanted to remove James, The Book of Revelations and a few other books (namely The Catholic Letters) from the New Testament. You go right on ahead and believe that The Canon wasn't settled 1100 years "before" Martin Luther. |
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Post by reinabella on Apr 23, 2008 22:27:59 GMT -5
Why is it that when non-Catholic Christians like something from Catholicism, they refer to the Catholicism as simply, "the early church", and when they don't, they refer to the Early Church, as the "Catholic Church".  i dont get the question |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 23, 2008 22:29:47 GMT -5
I think what he is saying is that some prots, if they agree with an early teaching they say it comes from the early church and if it is something they disagree with they say it comes from the Catholic church...
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Post by reinabella on Apr 23, 2008 22:30:44 GMT -5
Cafetiria Christianity. They pick and choose what they want to believe. If Protestantism was true and right in being anti-Catholic, then there wouldn't be 34,000+ different versions of it. They can't even agree amongst themselves which leads to the teaching about The Church built upon The Rock: Matthew 7
24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. Which house looks like the one built upon rock (Hint: Matthew 16:18 "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")? Which one represents the house built upon man (sand/soil)? I think it's unfair to call Protestants "anti-Catholic". It may have started that way but in all reality, in all my dealings w/ the Protestant church, I've never ONCE heard ANYTHING about Catholicsm. EVER. It's like saying someone that dates a white person is Anti-black... in this day and age.. one has nothing to do w/ the other.. I don't think about the Catholic church enough to be anti-catholic. That's not to say that there AREN'T protestants who are wholly anti-catholic.. It just seems that Protestants get a bad rap as being anti-catholic when maybe in history, that's the case but as religion has evolved and moved on, it's not the 'anti-catholic' religion. It's just different. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 23, 2008 22:34:14 GMT -5
Sweety, have you ever been on the www.onlinebaptist.com?They are the most anti-catholic folk ive ever seen. Of course we cant say that "all" protestants are that way, but let me tell ya, i have met alot of them. Some and alot of them dont even consider us Christian and say we are not their brothers or sisters in Christ. Pretty sad! |
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Post by reinabella on Apr 23, 2008 22:37:15 GMT -5
Sweety, have you ever been on the www.onlinebaptist.com?They are the most anti-catholic folk ive ever seen. Of course we cant say that "all" protestants are that way, but let me tell ya, i have met alot of them. Some and alot of them dont even consider us Christian and say we are not their brothers or sisters in Christ. Pretty sad! I have never been there. I try not to get online for groups like that because ultimately it's not a great microsm of reality. It's like if a white person got on Blackplanet and assumed that most black people thought like those on BP, whichi sn't true at ALL. THANK GOD ! LOL I'll check it out though. I'm from a Pentecostal background, bred on my own (meaning I wasn't forced because my parents weren't in churcH). And I went to a Pentecostal university.. so I'm speaking from my personal experience. which was like 15 years.. |
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Post by reinabella on Apr 23, 2008 22:38:27 GMT -5
Sweety, have you ever been on the www.onlinebaptist.com?They are the most anti-catholic folk ive ever seen. Of course we cant say that "all" protestants are that way, but let me tell ya, i have met alot of them. Some and alot of them dont even consider us Christian and say we are not their brothers or sisters in Christ. Pretty sad! I have never been there. I try not to get online for groups like that because ultimately it's not a great microsm of reality. It's like if a white person got on Blackplanet and assumed that most black people thought like those on BP, whichi sn't true at ALL. THANK GOD ! LOL I'll check it out though. I'm from a Pentecostal background, bred on my own (meaning I wasn't forced because my parents weren't in churcH). And I went to a Pentecostal university.. so I'm speaking from my personal experience. which was like 15 years.. I mean microcosm ..excuse me..I'm typing too fast..LOL |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 23, 2008 22:40:29 GMT -5
Heck i dont even know what "microcosm" is LOL
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Post by reinabella on Apr 23, 2008 22:42:49 GMT -5
Heck i dont even know what "microcosm" is LOL LOL meaning, a small sample of what reality is. For instance, you go on a board that maybe, is all blacks who are racists towards white. A white person might believe that because of that page he was on, that most blacks thought like him. Which isn't reality. Like migente is a microcosm of latinos. Sure you get latino opinions but it's not even close to what off line latinos might think. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 23, 2008 22:44:48 GMT -5
i hear ya!
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