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Post by I.M.Apologetics on Apr 3, 2008 16:40:44 GMT -5
1 Timothy 3:15,
"If I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth."
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Post by Cepha on Apr 5, 2008 10:27:33 GMT -5
The Church...of course!
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 5, 2008 10:35:42 GMT -5
Hmm...again, doesn't seem like its talking about the CC. Just the Church as the body of believers.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 5, 2008 11:14:24 GMT -5
Hmm...again, doesn't seem like its talking about the CC. Just the Church as the body of believers. The Church "is" The Body of Believers. Even if you don't profess and allegiance to The Catholic Church (the universal body of believers), you are still considered by The Church to be one of our members. We don't exclude you, but include you. You and others like you (about 17% of Christianity) exclude yourselves from full communion with His Church. Right now, there are Monks and Nuns who's only work is to pray for our unity. You are part of The Catholic Church by default. By being a Christian, you are professing the beliefs that we revealed to The World and you use The Bible that we canonized (even if you use the version edited by 16th Century Europeans). The Catholic Church is The Church being spoken of in Scripture. It existed before The Holy Bible did. It literally created The Holy Bible in the 4th Century. The community of Christian believers has been called Catholic within the first 100 years of Jesus' death...as early as 107-110 AD. Why isn't it called "The Catholic Church" in scripture? A) No physical Church existed until the 4th century under the protection of Constantine The Great. B) They were being persecuted by Romans so they had to keep the Church in hiding. C) It was just understood that The Church was "universal" because there were no other denominations of Christianity...only one universal Church. But you also won't find the words DNA or Trinity or Rapture in The Bible either...yet they all exist right?  |
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 5, 2008 22:02:04 GMT -5
What if I don't want to be part of the CC, lol?
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Post by Cepha on Apr 6, 2008 9:02:50 GMT -5
What if I don't want to be part of the CC, lol? It's not what "you" want, it's what God wants for you. If you're not a Catholic nor have any desire to become one, it's because God doesn't want you here. If God wanted you here, nothing you could say or do would stop you from coming here. The difference between Catholics and other religions is that we are not "converted" to The Faith. We are called to it. You should read what Protestants who came to The Faith say about how they were called to it. Were they converts? Yes, but not from Christianity. They were always Christians, but they went from being Secular Christians (Christians belonging to a man made Church) to becomming Universal Christians (Christians belonging to The Church started by Christ 2,000 years ago). They call it "Crossing The Tyber River" and actually have a club. Here is an example of a great former Protestant who made The Journey Home: youtube.com/watch?v=9HEIHJQrOFMyoutube.com/watch?v=wqIVFqLYgi8 |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 7, 2008 14:49:55 GMT -5
ok, who voted pope? crazy!
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 7, 2008 15:01:29 GMT -5
Oh someone would want me to join the Catholic Church...but it wouldn't be God...
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Post by Cepha on Apr 7, 2008 16:22:50 GMT -5
ok, who voted pope? crazy! OMGosh! I thought the same thing! Who in the heck voted The Pope! LOL! |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 7, 2008 16:25:53 GMT -5
Oh someone would want me to join the Catholic Church...but it wouldn't be God... You just blashphemed God. You just suggested that Satan wants you to join God's Church. Mark my words. Something very very bad is going to happen to you now. Watch. When it does, you'll dissappear from this site and won't tell us why. I was debating this guy once and he did the same thing. I told him that something bad was going to happen to him because he blasphemed God. Sure enough, the next day, he found himself homeless out of the blue. Hey, let us know how it goes for you M. |
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Post by I.M.Apologetics on Apr 10, 2008 23:51:00 GMT -5
The Church, of course!
Its what the Bible says!
Next we have to see what Church is that of Acts and the NT!
Where is that Church now?
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