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Post by Cepha on Apr 28, 2008 9:57:23 GMT -5
When I first set out to start my own Forum, it was as a direct response to all the boards (Protestant and one Catholic) that banned me for my openess.
I also saw where Protestants too were being banned, but not on Catholic sites...on their own sites!
So I developed my no ban policy and it seems to have worked great.
It's weeded out those who don't want to debate, but just spew rhetoric without being responded to.
And those who had the backing of the Moderators at other sites who are here without that "protection" find themselves being more careful in how they approach a debate.
It's amazing how the lack of power to ban humbles one.
I, having all the power in the world to ban persons of different beliefs, show more power in "not" doing so. It takes more strength to listen to contrary beliefs and to take it than to press a delete button or to ban someone.
We have all had the opportunity to discuss what we believe freely and without the moderation of any one group over the others, this discussion (speaking for myself an my observations) has been healthy.
The things that have been discussed here couldn't be discussed elsewhere without the interferrance of the Moderators who are more like Cyber Pharisees these days.
It's been my experience that the Catholic board is by far the worst of these faults against their own Catholic posters being more concerned with their image than with the truth.
The Protestants boards represent the typical intolerance displayed by the most vocal Protestant faiths whether against Catholics or their own Protestant brethren.
This is truly a "Christian" board, with all of your warts and blemishes in the open for the world to see.
I don't care about our image. I don't care about suppressing Protestants or Catholics who don't agree with me.
All I want is a place to speak out!
I want a place were those who disagree with me can speak out.
The hypocrites have exposed themselves, jumping on us on other websites, but remaining eerily silent her.
On sites where they are protected by the moderators, they go off on us, but here, where it is the moderator that they disagree with, they won't dare post. They are hypocrites. Like the Pharisees and the Saudecees. They only want to speak in places where they control the dialogue.
So, to those Protestants who are here, thank you. You are not hypocrites. You are true believers in your faith. You show great strength. To those who've left because this format doesn't interest them enough, that's fair. Just because you're not here, it doesn't mean that there is something wrong with you and that we're automatically right. I respect your decision.
But to those who were so vocal and ready to talk on those sites where you were protected but won't touch the topics here?
You played yourselves.
I'm proud of this site. It's not as lively as other Forums, but guess what...the exchanges are more open.
Freedom of speech commands respect and the ability to back up what one says.
Perhaps that is precisely why those that are vocal on sites where they don't have to back up what they say are not so vocal here or altogether...silent here.
Which only goes to show that those who post here are true believers.
Well done my friends.
We may disagree on things, but at least here...we can speak to each other without being controlled.
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 28, 2008 14:38:39 GMT -5
"I, having all the power in the world to ban persons of different beliefs, show more power in "not" doing so. It takes more strength to listen to contrary beliefs and to take it than to press a delete button or to ban someone. "
LOL, that line made me laugh.
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Post by Cepha on May 3, 2008 12:28:18 GMT -5
Yeah...you won't find that on ChurchUSA.
;D
It's good to be the king!
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Post by emily445455 on May 3, 2008 17:54:28 GMT -5
...it made me laught because...well...no offense, but it's a forum, and if I get banned it really won't be the end of the world, lol. You just made it sound like you have so much power, that you hold my life in your hands, lol. Made me chuckle.
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Post by Cepha on May 3, 2008 18:19:26 GMT -5
...it made me laught because...well...no offense, but it's a forum, and if I get banned it really won't be the end of the world, lol. You just made it sound like you have so much power, that you hold my life in your hands, lol. Made me chuckle. LOL! I do have the power in this world! LOL! |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 24, 2008 10:55:44 GMT -5
Know something? I'm proud of this forum. I set it up to draw in anti-Catholics here to debate in an unbannable enviroment and while in the beginning a few of them came, they dissappeared when they saw that I couldn't be banned or that my words couldn't be edited. It might be in limbo for now, but the quality of the posts have gone up big time. I know that they lurk here and take our exchanges and use them on other sites and argue against my points without me being able to answer them or to respond to them, but this is just putting burying them more. I feel sorry for them. What must it be like to have your beliefs proven wrong to the point of udeniability? I've never experienced that, yet I've done that to anti-Catholics as easily as I breathe. To think, one minute you're cruising along bashing The Church thinking you're all high and mighty then you run into me and BAM! Stopped dead in you're tracks! lol So at first, you get a little excited because you think you've met someone to test you, but then after a while of being baited and trapped time after time after time after time, you realize you're way in over your head. Then you run to get reinforcements and I trounce them too. What do you do now? Nothing, but dissappear. But no matter what, you cannot erase the ownage you suffered here. Dang I did good! I wiped the floor with them and now there is no excuse for them to lie anymore about us other than that their works are "not" being guided by The Holy Spirit. Now, I'll be the first one that'll admit that all of my works are not being guided by The Holy Spirit...I would never attribute something to The Holy Spirit that comes out of my mouth that I couldn't confirm so any of my errors are completely mine and whatever is good is of The Holy Spirit. But I am proud that no anti-Catholics can germinate here. They come, they get owned, they leave and never return. I write this because I was tempted to start trolling around again looking for some to lure into this cyber-black hole for them, but something told me to just, let it go!  Just knowing that I owned them is good enough for me. |
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Post by jhardin on Jun 25, 2008 0:46:08 GMT -5
Know something? I'm proud of this forum. I set it up to draw in anti-Catholics here to debate in an unbannable enviroment and while in the beginning a few of them came, they dissappeared when they saw that I couldn't be banned or that my words couldn't be edited. It might be in limbo for now, but the quality of the posts have gone up big time. I know that they lurk here and take our exchanges and use them on other sites and argue against my points without me being able to answer them or to respond to them, but this is just putting burying them more. I feel sorry for them. What must it be like to have your beliefs proven wrong to the point of udeniability? I've never experienced that, yet I've done that to anti-Catholics as easily as I breathe. To think, one minute you're cruising along bashing The Church thinking you're all high and mighty then you run into me and BAM! Stopped dead in you're tracks! lol So at first, you get a little excited because you think you've met someone to test you, but then after a while of being baited and trapped time after time after time after time, you realize you're way in over your head. Then you run to get reinforcements and I trounce them too. What do you do now? Nothing, but dissappear. But no matter what, you cannot erase the ownage you suffered here. Dang I did good! I wiped the floor with them and now there is no excuse for them to lie anymore about us other than that their works are "not" being guided by The Holy Spirit. Now, I'll be the first one that'll admit that all of my works are not being guided by The Holy Spirit...I would never attribute something to The Holy Spirit that comes out of my mouth that I couldn't confirm so any of my errors are completely mine and whatever is good is of The Holy Spirit. But I am proud that no anti-Catholics can germinate here. They come, they get owned, they leave and never return. I write this because I was tempted to start trolling around again looking for some to lure into this cyber-black hole for them, but something told me to just, let it go! Just knowing that I owned them is good enough for me. I actually enjoyed reading your opening post. And it has actually encouraged me (a Baptist) to see that you have done the same thing I have done... and for the same reasons. I have appreciated your desire for truth (even though you're wrong ) The funny thing is... my forums have experienced the exact same results. It's been wonderful. I have had to squelch 2 users over the past 2 years... and one was for spam, the other was just acting like lunatic. Other than that... by stripping myself of the power to ban people, I have ultimately given myself and my position more credibility (which you have also done). You should be proud of this forum. I believe that the only outcome of an open debate forum is the exposition of the truth whether that board is operated by Baptists, or Catholics... the truth should always be the goal, and the goal will never be reached by cutting the arguments short. |
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Post by knuckle on Jun 25, 2008 5:21:38 GMT -5
I Agree
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Post by Cepha on Jun 25, 2008 7:34:32 GMT -5
Absolutely. Without cenorship, without the Pharisitical like abuse of power as I've experienced on other sites, you notice how quickly an anti-anything is shut down when he/she can be responded to. Their like internet bullies that are safe only when they have their cyber crew around (like minded mods & admins). But not here. We won't have any of that here. The Catholic, The Protestant, The Mormon, The Muslim and even the Atheist is welcome to speak their mind here. |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 25, 2008 7:43:51 GMT -5
This is a decent place. It's not cluttered by wastes of time. I know this, while I'd definately appreciate more traffic just for the variety of topics that could be discussed and while I truly hate seeing my own name occupying almost every thread here, I have to say that we've managed to keep this board trouble free. Again, I've never had to ban anyone...they've basically banned themselves. What I love about this place is the freedom we all experience. And the "forum" literally from which anyone can speak. To be such a tiny community, one has to be really strong in their faith to roll here. And if you're not strong when you start, you leave here one of two ways...either way weaker than when you got here or way stronger. |
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Post by wonbyone on Jun 27, 2008 21:21:39 GMT -5
This is very true. Good statement.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 27, 2008 21:38:29 GMT -5
This is very true. Good statement. ;D Oh, I am tested, but I've found that by allowing those with contrary beliefs to have to freedom to express themselves without limits, it empties them of their animosity. Plus, when they have that outlet, once they spoken their piece, they have no place to go nor any excuses for misunderstanding anymore. This has two effects. It either causes the stubborn & weak to quit or allows the strong to remain and become friends with me. Some leave for personal reasons that have nothing to do with belief differences (which I respect). But all in all, I can honestly say that we have some really bright and tolerant individuals here who in turn are teaching me by their example how I could be a better Christian. |
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Post by Danica-Christine. on Jul 2, 2008 15:12:03 GMT -5
Steven,
Awesome work! I agree with everything you say.
But, I'm not a dumb-'n-blind Catholic, either. I'm much like my father - a fact person. Tje Protestant Churches are an illusion, but the one, true Catholic Church is fact - never fiction.
We don't make up lies to get more "members," instead, we tell the Truth. Take it, or leave it.
God bless!
In Mary Immaculate,
Danica-Christine.
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Post by Cepha on Jul 2, 2008 15:27:37 GMT -5
Steven, Awesome work! I agree with everything you say. But, I'm not a dumb-'n-blind Catholic, either. I'm much like my father - a fact person. Tje Protestant Churches are an illusion, but the one, true Catholic Church is fact - never fiction. We don't make up lies to get more "members," instead, we tell the Truth. Take it, or leave it. God bless! In Mary Immaculate, Danica-Christine. That's how I came back to The Faith. God just spoke to my heart and showed me the unreasonableness of my rejecting my gift in The Church. Once I reverted back to Christianity, I had no choice...I had to become a Catholic. |
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Post by Danica-Christine. on Jul 2, 2008 15:30:47 GMT -5
Ah, yes, and the joys of being Catholic. *Sighs*
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Post by Cepha on Aug 6, 2008 8:50:49 GMT -5
As you know we have our differences, but I do like the freedom you have given us here, as you probably guessed I have been banned many other places, lol, and I don't really consider myself protestant, although I am not catholic, but when reading your post and knowing exactly what you mean about the ''mod's pet'', getting away with murder (figuratively of course) while if you challenge them you would be sternly warned. It made me feel good knowing that I am not one of those hypocrites that would stand up in another forum and be quiet in this one. I stood up in them and was thrown out and I will stand up in here no ban policy or no. God bless you all.  An open enviroment leads to better understanding. If one buries their head in the sand like an ostrich, they can't "see/hear/speak". They then are guilty of blinding themselves. The truly strong Chrstian will be able to hear any opinion and will be abe to discuss it, but there is a difference between that and between some of the abuses we've experienced here. I'm used to being attacked for my faith and I'll stand toe-to-toe with anybody who wants to debate anything regarding it. But there are some who don't want to debate (talking about others, not you right now). Some just want to bash and they get wrathful when they get answered back, then become really nasty. If someone is strong in their position, they remain cool. Of course anyone can get heated, but then there comes a period of realization and one gets a hold of themselves. The only ones who continue to be nasty are those that are frustrated because they simply have no case. I respect anyone I can be in a heated debate with, but that can get a hold of themselves and discuss things in a civilized manner once the initial battle is over. Some of my best friends online today are persons that I've gotten into really heated debates with. We didn't change each other's minds, but we grew to respect each other's differences. And frankly, a lot of them have told me "I have never met a Catholic who can defend their beliefs like you!" (while I must admit, I have never met a Protestant who "could'nt" defend their faith like me). This says a lot about Catholics. Fact is, we are "fat" with graces and we (generally speaking, 70% of us) just don't realize the beauty of The Church and only use it when we want to get married or to baptize our children. Only 30% of The Church is said to be truly faithful practicing Catholics. The other 70% are "Christmas/Easter" Catholics. That's the only time they show up in Church and some of those lead worldly lives believing in things like abortion and materialism and modernity. I'm not perfect, so I definitly cannot pass judgement on them. I'm just putting out that fact (and as a Catholic, I can do that). I just got kicked out of my 2nd Catholic Forum because I was posting Anti-McCain Threads with links to videos of him using racial slurs and of him caught in lies and of his corruption in the news. Because the mods were Pro-McCain, they were deleting my threads while allowing Anti-Obama Threads to remain on. Mind you, they stated that the reason they deleted my threads were because they were in the wrong section. So when I copied & pasted the Anti-Obama Threads in that same section, I was told that I was being disrespectful and they banned me. Actually, I told them that a forum with the name of "Catholic" in the title should post the truth (not delete it and allow for lies about Obama to be posted without challenge). Everything was A-O.K. while I spoke of Catholic issues, but when it came to my opposition of a political candidate they loved, then my Catholicism wasn't enough to allow me to express my views. In other words, they put their politics about their faith. LOL I posted The Catholic Church's opposition to McCain beliefs! They didn't like that at all! |
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Post by Cepha on Aug 17, 2008 20:03:34 GMT -5
This whole post is a lie and cepha is a hypocrite he does banned people he cannot beat, he banned watchman for confronting him on his false teaching of salvation outside of Christ That's strike two so far. I can never really beat anybody on their beliefs. I can prove them wrong on their facts, but not on beliefs. Let's see what else is on the board... (to be honest, I'm sure the next one will be strike 3, but I'm being nice about it as I do my best to be...) |
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