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Post by knuckle on May 16, 2008 18:37:14 GMT -5
hey Cepha------------------
heres the new thread
much love-----------------knuckle
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Post by Cepha on May 16, 2008 18:59:29 GMT -5
hey Cepha------------------ heres the new thread much love-----------------knuckle Well, since it doesn't apply to me, I can't answer. Good luck.  |
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Post by alfie on May 17, 2008 19:17:02 GMT -5
hey Cepha------------------ heres the new thread much love-----------------knuckle Of course they don't just talk to God, that would be too simple and spontaneous and we can't have that. When I pray I usually try to spend time praising God rather than asking him to answer certain requests. When I do ask for something specific it usually is to help me overcome sin or to help an individual. If I had to pray the rosary I would go nuts from the tedious repetition which is totally meaningless and a waste of good time. No where in the Bible does it say to pray to a dead woman or constantly repeat the same prayer over and over again. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 17, 2008 23:19:51 GMT -5
Well, alfie, i am catholic and i never pray the rosary! Not that its a bad thing, i just dont know how.
Another thing, im glad to know that everyone in heavan is just a "dead guy". That is pretty lame...
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2008 3:44:10 GMT -5
Well, alfie, i am catholic and i never pray the rosary! Not that its a bad thing, i just dont know how. Another thing, im glad to know that everyone in heavan is just a "dead guy". That is pretty lame... She totally insulted Jesus when she mentioned the "repetative" prayer thing. Jesus prayed repetative prayers. He was a Jew and that was their way of praying. Not only that, don't Protestants (esp. Baptists) stand up in the middle of their churches and pray out loud with their hands up in the air praying repetative prayers (glory, glory, glory, glory, halleluyah, halleluyah, halleluyah) for hours? Matthew 6:5 "And when thou mayest pray, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites, because they love in the synagogues, and in the corners of the broad places -- standing -- to pray, that they may be seen of men; verily I say to you, that they have their reward." What Jesus criticized was " vain" prayer, prayer without meaning or sentiment, prayer where one makes it known to everyone what their prayers are, not repetative prayer, or else He'd be guilty of the same thing as he prayed repeatedly the same thing at Gethsemane. And yeah...God certainly is the God of The Living (not of The Dead). Jesus talked to Moses and to Elijah at The Transfiguration. Was He talking to two "dead" people? Of course not. Those in Heaven are more alive than we are. That's the problem with some of the Christians sects...they seem to think that the priority is on "this" life (which is something Jesus taught against) when in fact, the priority is supposed to be on the afterlife (what they consider death). When one is "born again", they aren't born again into their first life (this life)...the origional wage of original sin isn't lifted. Our bodies "still" die...we are born again spiritually. When our bodies die, our spirits continue to live after our flesh dies. Therefore, Mary (who was seen in Heaven by John in Scripture), Moses and Elijah, The Saints that rose out of their tombs in Matthew 27:52 are more alive than we are. But some place more importance on eartly life than on our spiritual lives "after" we die to the flesh. |
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Post by knuckle on May 18, 2008 16:05:57 GMT -5
hi Cepha------------
Not only that, don't Protestants (esp. Baptists) stand up in the middle of their churches and pray out loud with their hands up in the air praying repetative prayers (glory, glory, glory, glory, halleluyah, halleluyah, halleluyah) for hours?----umm no
Therefore, Mary (who was seen in Heaven by John in Scripture),----He saw an astrological event proclaiming the birth
When one is "born again", they aren't born again into their first life (this life)...the origional wage of original sin isn't lifted. Our bodies "still" die...we are born again spiritually. When our bodies die, our spirits continue to live after our flesh dies.----the Baptist hold this doctrine too
much love--------------knuckle
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2008 17:11:28 GMT -5
I agree with that.
Everlasting life was taken from us because of original sin. Jesus came and gave us that life back. So, while the flesh dies, the spirit goes on only because of Christ's work.
So, when we are born again, it's not our flesh that is born again, but our spirits.
Pax
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