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Post by Cepha on May 17, 2008 13:46:43 GMT -5
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Post by Jimmy B. on Dec 10, 2008 3:16:30 GMT -5
"That the Roman Church is more honored by God than all others is not to be doubted."
Martin Luther
I can't believe I have to agree with a heretic, but in this case he was correct.
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Post by Cepha on Dec 10, 2008 13:05:14 GMT -5
"That the Roman Church is more honored by God than all others is not to be doubted." Martin Luther I can't believe I have to agree with a heretic, but in this case he was correct. You should see how many "Pro-Catholic" stances he had up until his death (especially his defense of The Blessed Mother!). Check out my Martin Luther thread here. |
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Post by Jimmy B. on Dec 12, 2008 2:14:36 GMT -5
Hello Cepha,
Isn't that amazing...Most Protestant, non-Catholic Christians today, would be shocked if they knew how "Catholic" Martin Luther was in his beliefs.
The further one gets from Catholicism and from the early Protestant Churches, the more inconsistencies one sees.
One cannot connect the Christian dots, without first connecting the Catholic dots.
The further removed these non-Catholic Christian denominations get from Catholicism, the further they are removed from important, Christian truths.
Rejection of Christian truths found in Catholicism, are a rejection of Christ, Himself.
Your thoughts?
Peace
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Post by knuckle on Dec 12, 2008 22:59:54 GMT -5
Hi All--------------
I don't know if it is because of my Ana-baptist background or a Catholic thing but you guys talk about Martin Luther a hundred times more than we do.Baptist bible college doesn't even require a thesis on him for a doctorate in theology.
Any Lutherans in the house?Maybe they might be interested in this thread....
much love----------------knuckle
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Post by Cepha on Dec 13, 2008 11:14:20 GMT -5
Hello Cepha, Isn't that amazing...Most Protestant, non-Catholic Christians today, would be shocked if they knew how "Catholic" Martin Luther was in his beliefs. The further one gets from Catholicism and from the early Protestant Churches, the more inconsistencies one sees. One cannot connect the Christian dots, without first connecting the Catholic dots. The further removed these non-Catholic Christian denominations get from Catholicism, the further they are removed from important, Christian truths. Rejection of Christian truths found in Catholicism, are a rejection of Christ, Himself. Your thoughts? Peace I think this reknown Protestant Theologian put it best when he said... "To be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant." He went on to become a great Catholic... Cardinal John Newman. When Protestants are allowed to read for themselves without the misindoctrination of a man, they are confronted with the truth. Have you noticed that the longer a Prot Denomination lasts, the more "Catholic" it becomes incorporating the things we do then saying that they only do them now because they found out that the original Church did it? That's a beautiful thing. It's getting that you can't tell an Epicopalian or Lutheran church from a Catholic Church these days. |
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Post by Cepha on Dec 13, 2008 11:18:29 GMT -5
Hi All-------------- I don't know if it is because of my Ana-baptist background or a Catholic thing but you guys talk about Martin Luther a hundred times more than we do.Baptist bible college doesn't even require a thesis on him for a doctorate in theology. Any Lutherans in the house?Maybe they might be interested in this thread.... much love----------------knuckle Actually Knucks (and hello brother...you are missed here!), Protestants threw Luther under the bus a long time ago. They abandoned him, yet kept some of his teachings. There is a movement in The Catholic Church to remove the moniker of "heretic" from Luther now the more his writings are coming out showing that he never wanted to break away from The Church...he just wanted to root out the corruption in it. He was supposedly very remorseful at the division his works were used to cause. I used to seriously "not" like him, but as I came to read his works, he was a Catholic until the end. He never disagreed with The Church, just with some of the clergy. I think all Protestants should study the founder of their movement. They would be shocked at what he really believed and taught. |
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Post by knuckle on Dec 13, 2008 19:34:40 GMT -5
Oh we Ana-baptists do Bro.
His name is Jesus
much love------------knuckle
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Post by Cepha on Dec 14, 2008 15:34:54 GMT -5
Oh we Ana-baptists do Bro. His name is Jesus much love------------knuckle Didn't Nicholas Storch & Thomas Munzer establish The Anabaptist Movement in Germany in 1521? |
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Post by knuckle on Dec 14, 2008 16:08:34 GMT -5
Hey Cepha------------
not at all Bro. they were just convicted for it.I used the term Ana-baptist because it is probably the name you are most familiar with but Donatist, Samosatene, Celtic Christianity, Albigensians,Waldenses Anabaptist,Cathari,Mani, Noetus, Priscillianism, Sabellians, are just a few of the names we have been called since Pentecost.
much love--------------knuckle
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