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Post by Cepha on Jun 25, 2008 21:09:18 GMT -5
I've always been impressed by this group of Christians.
There is a special no on National Geographic Channel regarding a period that their young members have a period of self discovery (Rumspringa).
I really, really have a great respect for them.
I just always wondered why persons of other races weren't attracted to this faith and if they were, would they be allowed in?
Are there any Amish that aren't White?
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Post by Cepha on Jun 25, 2008 21:16:41 GMT -5
One of the most impressive acts they showed the world was when one of their schools was attacked by a crazed gunman with emotional problems who did unmentionable things to the girls he held captive then shot the children and himself.
They prayed for him.
How Christian is that?
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 25, 2008 22:25:24 GMT -5
Pretty crazy!
Is omish a religon or just a way of life?
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Post by Cepha on Jun 25, 2008 22:35:44 GMT -5
Pretty crazy! Is omish a religon or just a way of life? A religion that I guess affects and/or dictates their cultural life as well. What part do you think is crazy? |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 26, 2008 0:23:08 GMT -5
the guy gunning down the students!
I do think that their lifestyle is a bit strange, but to each their own.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 26, 2008 0:32:06 GMT -5
the guy gunning down the students! I do think that their lifestyle is a bit strange, but to each their own. I think that their lifestyle is closer to living right than the rest of society's is. They live a very simple life.  |
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Post by knuckle on Jun 26, 2008 5:33:45 GMT -5
Hi all----------
the Amish are Anabaptists (we have discussed this) and they are also a swiss-German ethnic group.Unlike the Mennonites and baptists they don't have church buildings meeting in one another's homes for service the are strict followers of being separate from the world.(especially Old Order)
because of their isolationist lifestyle they suffer from a lot of heredity problems (limited gene pool) and practice a pure Theo-socialism much as the Puritans did.
much love-----------knuckle
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Post by Cepha on Jun 26, 2008 7:56:19 GMT -5
Hi all---------- the Amish are Anabaptists (we have discussed this) and they are also a swiss-German ethnic group.Unlike the Mennonites and baptists they don't have church buildings meeting in one another's homes for service the are strict followers of being separate from the world.(especially Old Order) because of their isolationist lifestyle they suffer from a lot of heredity problems (limited gene pool) and practice a pure Theo-socialism much as the Puritans did. much love-----------knuckle So if a African man fell in love with an Amish girl and they wanted to be married and he as willing to convert to their faith, would he be allowed? Or would he be forbidden from joining the Amish religion because he wasn't Swiss/German? |
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Post by knuckle on Jun 26, 2008 15:49:35 GMT -5
I don't know Bro.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 26, 2008 16:39:40 GMT -5
After what i know now about them, i totally disagree with their lifestyle!
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Post by Cepha on Jun 26, 2008 21:05:25 GMT -5
After what i know now about them, i totally disagree with their lifestyle! What do you disagree with? Their black clothes? LOL!  |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 27, 2008 1:29:43 GMT -5
No, their incest, their want to be unique, their want to not change when we all know, times have changes a bit. And the fact that they isolate themselves, they seem kinda racist to me. But im sure they are good people, they just are led wrong.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 27, 2008 9:10:50 GMT -5
What do you know about their incest? I haven't heard or read anything that makes them anymore incestual than non-Amish peoples. That, I like about them. When something is good, why change it? What's the crime rate in Amish communities? What's the poverty rate? What's the drug abuse rate? I want to be unique too if unique means being set apart from the world as they and The Bible say. If the world is crooked (and we all know that it is), then it's a good thing to be unique from the world...even if the world (let me rephrase that...even if a crooked world) sees you as wierd or different. That's what I'm trying to figure out, but it's not racism as much as it is culturalism. They don't even want to mix with whites (Irish, Northern Italians, Spaniards, French, etc...). They seem to only want to stick to Swiss-German strains. Define wrong? If their 80% right, what does that say about them? They are definately more right than the rest of the society that they live in that allows legalized prostitution, abortion, that emphasize materialism over piety, etc... They basically strive to live like Catholic monks only with the benefits of having wives and children. I've never heard an Amish person say something that I found to be unacceptable or unreasonable. Maybe that's because they haven't really been asked the right questions. I wish we had an Amish person here to help us understand them, but that would be difficult without a computer for them. They do have a life that is attractive to me. Piety, peaceful, they are very Christian if you compare "how" they live to how Jesus told us how we should live. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 28, 2008 10:59:24 GMT -5
well, cepha, racism is racist against any race, so they would be racist.
Knucks said something about them possibly being inbred because of lack of people in their community. Sounds pretty possible and most likely to me!
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Post by Cepha on Jun 28, 2008 11:07:16 GMT -5
well, cepha, racism is racist against any race, so they would be racist. Knucks said something about them possibly being inbred because of lack of people in their community. Sounds pretty possible and most likely to me! But is it racism against thier own race when they exclude whites? Or would you say that when it comes to non-whites, it's racial, but when it comes to whites, it's cultural? |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 29, 2008 23:04:23 GMT -5
no, i would say it is racist if i did not want my son marring say an italian, or a dutchman or whatever.
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