Nature's Calvary, Tsomwow, and O'Holy Night

[wonbyone]

This is something I got in my head shortly after becoming a Christian and I've been wanting to do something with it but didn't until recently. It really has nothing to do with my Tsimshian Native heritage despite the name, 'Tsomwow'. If anyone wants to know the meaning I'd be gla d to explain it.

[Cepha]

By all means, explain it!

I have a buddy who is Catholic/Native American.

His name is Yoeme.

You can find him here: www.migente.com/Yoeme/?simple_search_form_submit=1&layout=§ion=member_browse&search_type=username&memberusername=yoeme&email=&real_name=&username=Yoeme&sidebar=1

[wonbyone]

It sounds kind of 'Indian' doesn't it? It stands for 'The Son Of Man Walks On Water'. Incase you didn't notice, it's a double pic--a face with the eyes, crowsfeet, eyebrows, nose, mouth, halo etc, and Yeshua walking on water.

[Cepha]

Jun 28, 2008 22:24:34 GMT -5 wonbyone said:

This is something I got in my head shortly after becoming a Christian and I've been wanting to do something with it but didn't until recently. It really has nothing to do with my Tsimshian Native heritage despite the name, 'Tsomwow'. If anyone wants to know the meaning I'd be gla d to explain it.

Here's what I see in the pics:

1) Of course, the 3 crosses on Golgotha. The bottom brushes, witnesses.

2) Jesus' hands splayed out on The Cross and what looks like Noah's Ark. 5 fingers. And I also see the Jesus stick figure walking on the wave too. Also, what looks like The Ark can be Jesus' ribs (prophecy? His ribs could be counted?)

3) Mary, The Holy Spirit and The Baby Jesus.
The small tree being the fruit of the trees that are Mary & The Holy Spirit.
Notice, only the little tree has the "Light" on it (what Jesus is referred to in John 1).

[teresahrc]

I love them. My favorite is the TSOMWOW. i love your colors/form and designs. Do you have more to show?? I'm going to put some of my more abstract stuff up.
I really like your style
teresa

[wonbyone]

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Here's what I see in the pics:

1) Of course, the 3 crosses on Golgotha. The bottom brushes, witnesses.

2) Jesus' hands splayed out on The Cross and what looks like Noah's Ark. 5 fingers. And I also see the Jesus stick figure walking on the wave too. Also, what looks like The Ark can be Jesus' ribs (prophecy? His ribs could be counted?)

3) Mary, The Holy Spirit and The Baby Jesus.
The small tree being the fruit of the trees that are Mary & The Holy Spirit.
Notice, only the little tree has the "Light" on it (what Jesus is referred to in John 1).
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OM! Noah's Ark, I didn't notice that. LOL Yes, the nose is meant to be ribs, I counted them out as I did them. See, this is why I think this was inspired by the Lord and why it's been in my head for so long. Many people think that the Native Americans are supposed to lose their heritage to become a Christian but I think this was His way of telling me that's not so--He cherishes who we are b'c He created us to be who we are.

And, yes, the Holy Family. I'm in the process of having Christmas cards made of them on my own label.

The bottom bushes-witness. Wow. I love that. It wasn't in my mind when I did it but they were important to the picture. Thank you so much for looking at these for me.

[wonbyone]

Jun 29, 2008 20:03:02 GMT -5 @teresahrc said:

I love them. My favorite is the TSOMWOW. i love your colors/form and designs. Do you have more to show?? I'm going to put some of my more abstract stuff up.
I really like your style
teresa

Thank you so much. That means a lot to me. I'd love to see your work too. I have more but I'm not sure where it is. Half my stuff is packed b'c I'm hoping to move in August. If I come across it I'll post it.

[Cepha]

wonbyone
OM! Noah's Ark, I didn't notice that. LOL Yes, the nose is meant to be ribs, I counted them out as I did them. See, this is why I think this was inspired by the Lord and why it's been in my head for so long.

I think it's always good to get several views & perceptions on your work!

Many people think that the Native Americans are supposed to lose their heritage to become a Christian but I think this was His way of telling me that's not so--He cherishes who we are b'c He created us to be who we are.

Well, they've always had a concept "of" God. I believe He's called something to the effect of The Great Creator or The Creator or something like that, right?

Who's to say that this isn't how God reveald Himself to them in this way? Not me! I don't know God's mind and I would never dare to speak for Him.

What do I want to believe? That God has revealed Himself to them and that He loves them and that He will judge them as they lived (just as Romans 2 teaches us about non-Beleivers that can be justified and saved by how they live).

And, yes, the Holy Family. I'm in the process of having Christmas cards made of them on my own label.

That's great! Feel free to use this site to promote your work!
But! If you haven't done it already, look into protecting your work.

The bottom bushes-witness. Wow. I love that. It wasn't in my mind when I did it but they were important to the picture. Thank you so much for looking at these for me.

LOL! Don't give me so much credit! I could be wrong! LOL!

But to me, it looks like those at the foot of the crosses and they are leaning to one another talking about Christ, mocking him with 4 very visible trees at the foot of The Cross (Mary/The Blessed Mother of Jesus, Mary/Mary's cousin, Mary/Mary Magdalene & Saint John). See the 3 visible trees with the first one having a smaller tree leaning against it? John leaning in on Mary after Jesus told him to behold his mother? The 3 small trees are leaning towards the left while the smaller one (the one in the forefront like the other 3, not the ones in the background) is leaning against the first tree but to the right).

You have a couple of images on the right lower hand side that are looking down that look like fetus heads (babies!).

Then you have one brush that looks like a winged angel at the base of the first tree on the right side of it's trunk.

The center tree seems to have sign (INRI?) at the top and a crown of thorns where Jesus' head might be.

If you blow up the picture, at the base of the third tree, there is a skull there that looks like it is yelling at the bark of the tree on it's left side but to the rear of it.

Perhaps, the 1st tree with the angel is the contrite thief?

The 3rd tree is the thief thae mocked Jesus?

The 1st tree was saved?

The 3rd had certain death?

Beween the 1st and the 2nd tree, there are the same baby like images looking down too.

I'm going to down load this image and mark out what I see and send it back to you!

[Cepha]

Ok, bear with me. This was my first usage of Photobucket.
I was trying to get the words to attach to the lines, but I don't have it worked out yet.

Here we go...

Lines & numbers:

1. a wing like outcropping that only appears on the first 2 trees (again...the saved thief and Jesus? wings to heaven?)

2. the angel at the base of the tree facing the tree (good theifs messenger?)

3. baby facing down towards good thief

4. John leaning against line 5. (Mary?)

5. Mary?

6. Mary #2?

7. wing outcropping like first tree

8. 3rd Mary

9. skull yelling at 3rd tree (mocking thief? death?)

10. baby face down "away" from bad thief

11. baby face down "away" from bad thief

Top 2 lines:

Top line;
INRI sign?

Bottome line;
crown of thorns?

If you blow up the picture, you'll see what I see I think.

What do you think?

[Cepha]

[wonbyone]

That's really cool, Cepha. I'm gonna check out a larger image of it and see if I can see what you are. Some of them, I do already. Others I need to enlarge.

[wonbyone]

I found some more but the first one--my first watercolor (and it shows LOL) I can't find in a larger size so here it is small. The rest are...well, what's to say about 'em.






This one's called Dancing in the Moonlight

[Cepha]

Jul 2, 2008 17:12:14 GMT -5 wonbyone said:

I found some more but the first one--my first watercolor (and it shows LOL) I can't find in a larger size so here it is small. The rest are...well, what's to say about 'em.

Hey 1,

I'd really like to see that Dolphin pic in detail!

Also, Lion of Judah becomming The Lamb on Christmas?

[wonbyone]

Jul 2, 2008 17:22:52 GMT -5 Cepha said:

Jul 2, 2008 17:12:14 GMT -5 wonbyone said:

I found some more but the first one--my first watercolor (and it shows LOL) I can't find in a larger size so here it is small. The rest are...well, what's to say about 'em.

Hey 1,

I'd really like to see that Dolphine pic in detail!

Also, Lion of Judah becomming The Lamb on Christmas?

I only have a blow-up of it after it's altered with the background dolphin removed.

The Lion of Judah becoming the lamb? It was supposed to be a 'the lion shall lie down with the lamb' message of peace actually.

[teresahrc]

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I love the moonlight ones! How did you do them? Was it oil paint? How big are they? Do you sell them?

teresa