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Post by teresahrc on Jul 6, 2008 17:38:13 GMT -5
Just kidding. I' m bored again. WHere did everyone go? Cepha did you ban everyone? Come on, somebody anyone debate me.
teresa
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Post by knuckle on Jul 6, 2008 18:06:55 GMT -5
Hi Teresa-----------
what would you like to debate?
much love-------------knuckle
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Post by Cepha on Jul 6, 2008 18:09:06 GMT -5
If she accepts, Knuckles, start a thread in the Debate Forum and I'll moderate.  |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 6, 2008 18:11:35 GMT -5
Just kidding. I' m bored again. WHere did everyone go? Cepha did you ban everyone? Come on, somebody anyone debate me. teresa LOL! Everybody stopped posting "before" I banned "those who's names cannot be spoken!" LOL! Seriously, I saw many people log in, but they wouldn't post. I imagine it was because of the negativity of the threads being hurled back and forth. They'll come back when they see that it's become a place where people can post their beliefs without being attacked or insulted. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jul 6, 2008 22:27:41 GMT -5
Ive been gone since thursday, now im back and have to catch up!
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Post by Cepha on Jul 6, 2008 22:43:52 GMT -5
Ive been gone since thursday, now im back and have to catch up! Dude! You're soooo late! I had to ban a couple of Anti-Catholics! lol |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jul 6, 2008 23:37:44 GMT -5
i thought we were not banning... they must have been really rude and disrespectful!
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Post by Cepha on Jul 7, 2008 0:22:44 GMT -5
i thought we were not banning... they must have been really rude and disrespectful! There is no banning for personal beliefs. But nowhere on our board does it say that anyone is allowed to insult people. Again, we can all joke with each other, but when it gets to the point that a line is crossed and they don't stop...then, that calls for correction. 1. I first took it to them personally and called their behavior to their attention. 2. Then, I brought a member or two were we together pointed out their error. 3. Then, when that failed, I took it to the Board (in Scripture, this would be The Church). I based my banning them on The Bible and it's example of correcting those in error (this is equivalent to excommunicating a member of The Church). "Moreover if your brother sins against you,
go and tell him his fault between you and him alone.
If he hears you, you have gained your brother.
But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more,
that by the mouth of two or three witnesses
every word may be established.
And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church.
But if he refuses even to hear the church,
let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector."Matt.18:15-17 I did exactly that. By the way...one of them just called me and literally cursed me out on my personal cell phone #. Is that "Christian"? If there was any doubt before from you, there should'nt be now. Of course, I wouldn't say this unless I could prove it. So for whoever would like to hear the message I was left, let me know in a PM. I'll play if for you.  |
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Post by righteousone on Jul 7, 2008 7:02:01 GMT -5
Why would you personally give anyone your personal cell phone?
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Post by Cepha on Jul 7, 2008 12:01:10 GMT -5
Why would you personally give anyone your personal cell phone? We "used to be" very close friends. (that's why I didn't ban him sooner)  |
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Post by righteousone on Jul 7, 2008 17:06:37 GMT -5
I use to have a friend who was so into Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copeland, I stopped being her friend. She was to much with these wolves in sheep's clothing. Why can't people see what these people are doing??
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Post by Cepha on Jul 7, 2008 17:15:12 GMT -5
Why would you personally give anyone your personal cell phone? The sad thing is that when the floods hit the midwest (where he lives), I called him out of concern to see if he & his family were alright. He never returned my call to tell me that he was ok. But he had the time to call me back to curse me out. But, more and more he's showing how unChristianlike his brand of Christianity actually is. The easiest thing for me to do is to continue to be mired in the back and forth insults (which have nothing to do with a good Christian debate). The hardest thing to do when you're as adversarial as I am is to just let it go. I left my ego at the door. Am I boasting? No. I'm stating this to confess that I am itiching to go back to the old me... ...the me that would hound someone until they'd yell uncle. Nope...I can't. I don't belong to me anymore. I can't indulge in my own needs for vengeance. I can't judge him. I was once that angry. But I'm not anymore. I don't have to be. Not angry at him, not angry anything. How can I be angry with the gift of patience that I was just handed? Being a Christian gives you an excuse to take it on the chin and turn the other cheek. It gives you an excuse to suck it up and be a real man. It gives you the excuse to grow. Even if I look like a loser to "the world", if I win in His eyes, I'm ok. I can't care more about what I look like to others. I can't care about my image anymore. Not to the point that I sacrifice my Christianity. If I lose that, I lose period...no matter how big & bad I look to those who aren't within the fold in the first place. Truth be told, I wanted to let them back in, but not to give them a break. But, in my quiet time I reflected upon what Jesus would want me to do. And it's been a tug of war between my ego and His will. Thank God His will won over my ego. Thanks to a very good friend...JHardin who kept my head on straight. Without his assistance, I wouldn't be where I am today. Sheep & Goats. Through my imperfection, I might be a black sheep, but I'd rather be the Blackest Sheep in Jesus' flock than the Whitest Goat outside His flock.  |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 7, 2008 17:39:12 GMT -5
I use to have a friend who was so into Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copeland, I stopped being her friend. She was to much with these wolves in sheep's clothing. Why can't people see what these people are doing?? Kenneth Copeland is one of the croanies of Tom Brown who's quotes were used to try to disprove Catholicism here. When I pointed this out, I was attacked for discrediting the source. The Bible tells us to test the spirit of something to make sure that it is of God. Kenneth Copeland is not of God so anybody who claims that he is a credible reference is certainly "not" a trustworthy person to associate with and anybody who "officially" associates themselves with him is also suspect and not trustworthy. LOL! I once got kicked out of someone's house for proving to them that Benny Hinn was a fraud with the several undercover news program investigations that exposed him with cameras in his ministry showing his organization taking the checks out of the letters he received and throwing away the prayer requests. Not to mention showing his extravaggent lifestyle which completely contradicted Jesus' teaching that his Apostles live piously. The fruits friends...you can tell a tree by it's fruits. |
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Post by righteousone on Jul 10, 2008 17:54:23 GMT -5
I told one girl who gives to Copeland that I thought he was a fraud, and she verbally attacked me. She was spewing venom trying to stand up for him...I just don't get it. How come we aren't as stupid as these people? Does the Holy Spirit differ in each of us or is satan deceiving these types?
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Post by Cepha on Jul 10, 2008 19:19:12 GMT -5
I told one girl who gives to Copeland that I thought he was a fraud, and she verbally attacked me. She was spewing venom trying to stand up for him...I just don't get it. How come we aren't as stupid as these people? Does the Holy Spirit differ in each of us or is satan deceiving these types? Same thing happened to me here. Some people are fanatical about who they defend. It's like us with Mary (although I' ve never known a Catholic to literally curse someone over Mary, while I have had non-Catholics curse at me over my love for Jesus' mother). |
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Post by teresahrc on Mar 13, 2009 14:14:36 GMT -5
Wasn't it St. Athanasius who slapped Arius in the face because he refused to call Mary "Theotokos"?
I think for some reason, monks are allowed to slap other monks.
heheh
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Post by Cepha on Mar 13, 2009 15:47:55 GMT -5
Wasn't it St. Athanasius who slapped Arius in the face because he refused to call Mary "Theotokos"? I think for some reason, monks are allowed to slap other monks. heheh LOL! I think I like that Athanasius guy! Very Peter the "ear cutterish"! |
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Post by teresahrc on Mar 13, 2009 23:36:01 GMT -5
Erg. I'm bored. What can we talk about that will make people come here. (like nice people who like to discuss, debate, reason without being mean?)
Where have all the cowboys gone?
Just kidding,
but not kidding about being bored. erg.
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Post by Cepha on Mar 14, 2009 6:38:48 GMT -5
Erg. I'm bored. What can we talk about that will make people come here. (like nice people who like to discuss, debate, reason without being mean?) Where have all the cowboys gone? Just kidding, but not kidding about being bored. erg. I feel somewhat the same way. I used to be able to have this bored full of people. Problem is, some people only want to come here to insult and criticize without truly wanting to actually "defend" their own faith when challenged. They only want to attack. Plus the fact is that (as I've always said) Anti-Catholic fear coming here. Why would they come some place where Catholics can actually address their lies and misconceptions without limitations on what they can say? Read the earliest posts I put here on the Anti-Catholics thread. You'll not that I literally listed certain attributes and tactics that they have (don't cite sources, become beligerant when you challenge their assertions and ask for evidence, become enraged when you prove them wrong, insult and curse you, call you Satanic, etc...). You'd think that I was just talking about Watchman's posts, but actually, all Anti-Catholics are notorious for this behavior. It's not surprising. For a person to be Anti-Any Christian automatically tells you that they are "not" walking in a Christian manner. This is why they are so easy for me to dissassemble. It's almost too easy for me now. I have someone who I now consider a good friend. We'd go at it non-stop. We'd get nippy at each other but when the exchanges turned harsh (on both sides I must confess), I pulled out of the exchanges. Anyway, he has a Protestant site that gets millions of hits, yet even over there very few actually post. He and I are great friends now...I dare say true brothers in Christ even if we differ from how we practice our Christianity. And, while I may have not convinced him that we are who we believe we are as Catholics, I earned his respect because I was able to reasonably provide what I believed to be evidence for my beliefs and I have the strongest respect for his beliefs and for "how" he came to them. He is not Catholic and he doesn't agree with Catholicism, but I can honestly say that he is not an "Anti-Catholic". Even my own Catholic bretheren don't want to hear truth (take political discussions for example). This board lit up with the Anti-Obamians at one point, but I whittled them down even as they attacked me personally. Members that once loved me ended up insulting me because I voted for our current President. They even questioned my Catholicism. This made me extremely sad...not because I have any doubt about how Catholic I am, but because they were saying things that I know would've made Jesus Christ Himself sad. My personal faith had no place in political discussions, but as I began to prove them to be liers, out came the personal attacks (they had to discredit me in order for others to believe that what I said was false instead of just proving me wrong based on the actual topic). So, I've lost a lot of people I believed where friends. But that's good. Who needs friends that lie and slander? And, I believe with all my heart, many of them were racists anyway. So, good riddens! Anyway, I love debating with Anti-Catholics. I just don't like it when they begin to make personal attacks. Why? Because this tempts me to engage them in a similar manner. There was a time where'd I'd mix it up with them in similar matter, but I was using truth in an unChristian manner. So, I had to learn to digress. Tell you one thing...debating with them has certainly made me much stronger in my faith and I know for sure that I've sent them packing either infuriated that I was able to answer every false allegation they had (again, leading them to insult me) or opening up their minds to the possibility that they could be wrong about their Anti-Catholic views. I can't go on Anti-Catholic sites anymore. I'm banned from most of them. I'm even banned fromthe two biggest Catholic sites (one for posting the Moderators personal insults to me next to the forums rules and the other for posting John McCain's pro-abortion stances along with videos of his racist comments). So, I can't go and bring them here. But, I know that they know about me. They know that this is "my" house. And they know that they cannot come here and spew their garbage and not have me tear into them. We get hits...someone is coming here regularly and "not" logging in...lurking. But they won't engage. They probably take what they see here and go to another site with it. That's cool...the fact that they lurk, but don't post tells me far more than had they actually posted. They know they'd get "owned" if they dared posted here.  Anyway, I'm happy for the one or two non-Catholics whose respect I may have earned and who I may have enlightened positively and am not affected by the Anti-Catholics who "prowl the earth" looking for souls to contaminate. Honestly, they do not have The Holy Spirit when they hurl insults and lie. They have the spirit of darkness guiding their works and that is obvious by the "fruits" of their labors (slander, insults, etc...). I am by no means perfect. Neither am I in anyway better than those people who attack me. But, I'll say this...I won't lay down when it comes to my faith. Hence the name of this forum Fidei Defensor: "Defender of The Faith". |
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