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Post by Cepha on Aug 11, 2008 13:00:38 GMT -5
Believing does not guarantee heaven, but unbelief does guarantee hell. That is an excellent statement except for one thing...children don't believe. What I think the more proper statement would be " rejection" of Christ "by" a Believer. In order for one to knowingly reject Christ, they have to actually believe "in" Him first. Those who accept and believe "in" Him then reject Him are the guilty of "not Believing". Otherwise, children would be guilty of unbelief and thus would be condemned to hell. So, are Muslims automatically condemned because they don't accept the Christian version of Christ? No. Why? Because that depends on what they believe. Will God condemn the innocent who was misindoctrinated as to Who The Real Christ is? He would be an unjust God if He did. He would be punishing the victim for the fault of the one who misindoctrinated the victim in the first place. I've come to know Muslims who were very decent and moral people and Christians who were literally the dregs of hell. I believe with all of my heart that the moral Muslim will be saved before the sinful Christian. Not "just" because he is a good person, but because He lives God's will in his heart. No one has perfect faith in scripture. Each comes to God with being completely "incomplete". The greatest man alive was also the most humble...Saint John The Baptist. Yet while on earth, he was still not as great as the least in Heaven. |
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Post by redsoxfan on Aug 16, 2008 23:43:50 GMT -5
Well no anti-catholics here right now so I will tell you a c-usa story. Aug 15 was my birthday so I went to the happy birthday forum. And I noticed that many times people get a quote from scripture. So I requested to hear Rev chapter 12. I should actually go and check and see what their reply was...
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Post by redsoxfan on Aug 16, 2008 23:51:17 GMT -5
Just checked it out. Yeah the printed the whole of Chapter 12 of the Apocalypse. I give them credit for that. Then they put a picture of a red dragon holding on to a d-20 die. Odd...Wonder exactly why they put that on there. Probably means nothing malicious.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Aug 17, 2008 0:29:36 GMT -5
those people over there are really bad people...
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Post by Cepha on Aug 17, 2008 0:50:13 GMT -5
Just checked it out. Yeah the printed the whole of Chapter 12 of the Apocalypse. I give them credit for that. Then they put a picture of a red dragon holding on to a d-20 die. Odd...Wonder exactly why they put that on there. Probably means nothing malicious. The Red Dragon: Satan. Thing is, the whole chapter is about a "woman". Why no pic of her up? Let me find one for you...  |
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Post by Cepha on Aug 17, 2008 0:53:41 GMT -5
those people over there are really bad people... Too bad. I'd love to have them here.  Having Anti-Catholics here is like taking a fish out of sea water and trying to keep him alive in freshwater. If we can just keep one here that won't insult or disrespect those who they disagree with, we could have a nice exchange. But, I guess that's part of the Anti-Catholic Genetical Make-Up. Insulting and uChristlike behavior must be in their DNA. I guess, it really should'nt come as a surprise though. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Aug 17, 2008 16:47:52 GMT -5
Yeah, and aseeyou chick is on her way to getting banned too i would think. She needs to get over it and talk about what we are here to talk about. JESUS!
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Post by Cepha on Aug 17, 2008 20:20:56 GMT -5
Yeah, and aseeyou chick is on her way to getting banned too i would think. She needs to get over it and talk about what we are here to talk about. JESUS! But that's the thing, they can't. I've always said the fastest way to shut an Anti-Catholic up is to ask them a question about Jesus. Then they freeze because they can't answer it. (Usually, the curses come right after that along with the rebuking) |
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