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Post by teresahrc on Oct 27, 2008 11:59:40 GMT -5
I am so frustrated by people who are voting for McCain because he is supposedly pro-life. That is utterly ridiculous. McCain wants to give fed. funding to embryonic "research" that could potentially destroy millions of human beings. This is very twisted in my opinion because McCain said that he believes that life begins at the "moment of conception". Please tell me how someone can claim to be "pro life" and yet have no problem with the tax revenue funded murder of thousands(or millions) of innocent human beings? Do Embryos not "count" because they are SMALL?  Do Embryos not "count" because they don't resemble a more developed baby??? Does McCain think that only older babies deserve to live but younger ones don't? If you are voting for McCain because you are Pro Life, please reconsider. There are other options besides Obama and McCain. Just because Embryos don't yet have the ability to cry doen't mean that God doesn't hear them. God came into this world first as an Embryo. Yes, our savior was once even smaller than an Embryo--One Cell. Catholics--If you can't find a Candidate that is 100% pro life, then DON'T VOTE! But there are some out there if you do a little research. Kyrie Eleison teresa |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Oct 27, 2008 14:29:47 GMT -5
It is our duties as Americans to VOTE! I dont think i hear the POPE saying not to vote. You are a bit extreme sweety!
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Post by righteousone on Oct 27, 2008 19:58:29 GMT -5
Teresharc, save your breath and log on to Catholic.net. There you will find the information I have been trying to tell Cepha who refuses to listen. this should straighten it out on who's who...can't say I didn't warn youall!
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Oct 27, 2008 22:44:46 GMT -5
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Post by Cepha on Oct 28, 2008 9:41:49 GMT -5
So, I suppose that it's ok to vote for someone who believes in killing unborn children if the mother is raped or if the relationship was an incestual relationship or if it's for her health?
Why won't any pro-mccainites answer that?
There is not "gray" area in sin.
There is no "lesser evil".
There is only evil and good.
Both men agree with abortion.
Period.
Only of of them is more aligned with the Catholic Church on all other areas (charity, social justice, just war, etc...) and the other is opposed to The Catholic Church on those areas and The Catholic Church has spoken out against his position (guess which one it is? Hint: It ain't Hussein).
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Post by Cepha on Oct 28, 2008 9:54:18 GMT -5
It is our duties as Americans to VOTE! I dont think i hear the POPE saying not to vote. You are a bit extreme sweety! Not duty, but privilage.  And if a person doesn't vote, then they cannot complain. Ultimately, let's bypass the Pope on this one and see what Jesus taught: "Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's." In other words, we are not forced to vote. It is our choice. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Oct 28, 2008 12:24:04 GMT -5
It is our duties of americans because we elect our officials that determine what happens in our government and life. Lets not make this an argument. If you dont vote then dont even contribute to this conversation..
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Oct 28, 2008 12:38:17 GMT -5
Your right, i guess we should vote Democratic because The Church believes is Gay Marraiges, AND Pro Choice.
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Post by teresahrc on Oct 28, 2008 12:43:31 GMT -5
A bit extreme? There is a holocaust going on right here in my country and I am extreme for being against it?
If someone, God forbid, was about to kill someone right in front of me, would I be "extreme" for trying to save that person?
I will not be voting for McCain OR Obama because NEITHER of them want to protect innocent life. I could never live with that on my conscience--voting for someone who wants to use tax money to exterminate the unborn.
teresa
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Post by teresahrc on Oct 28, 2008 12:44:34 GMT -5
By the way, I AM voting for Constitution Party Candidate Charles Baldwin who is %100 pro-life and I will have a clear conscience afterwards.
teresa
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Post by Cepha on Oct 29, 2008 9:29:11 GMT -5
It is our duties of americans because we elect our officials that determine what happens in our government and life. Lets not make this an argument. If you dont vote then dont even contribute to this conversation.. I agree with that. But it is always a choice and you can't say that it's "not" a privilige, right? I definitely believe that if someone who has the capacity to vote doesn't, then they have no right to complain. I always vote. |
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Post by Cepha on Oct 29, 2008 9:58:43 GMT -5
Your right, i guess we should vote Democratic because The Church believes is Gay Marraiges, AND Pro Choice. Not The Catholic Church. Those are the Protestants that believe in that sort of stuff. And you shouldn't vote parties, but persons. I don't vote parties. I don't agree with everything the Repubs or Dems do, but I'll vote across party lines to pick the best candidate. To vote partisan just to vote partisan is what got us in this mess in the first place with the worst economy since the depression and with illegal wars and unjustifiable occupations of foreign countries while our enemy Osama Bin Ladin is still on the loose laughing at us. Republicans suck at national defense. They tried to take out the towers during Clinton, failed and Clinton blew them back to the stone age. What they failed to do during Clinton, they succeeded under Bush and not only did they succeed, but they got away with it. They won. Period. And we didn't do nothing about it. It's going to be up to Obama to go and get Osama! LOL! |
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Post by Cepha on Oct 29, 2008 10:53:05 GMT -5
A bit extreme? There is a holocaust going on right here in my country and I am extreme for being against it? If someone, God forbid, was about to kill someone right in front of me, would I be "extreme" for trying to save that person? I will not be voting for McCain OR Obama because NEITHER of them want to protect innocent life. I could never live with that on my conscience--voting for someone who wants to use tax money to exterminate the unborn. teresa See that Teresa? You're a REAL Pro-Lifer! Not a part-timer! I admire you so much! Now, in voting for either McCain or Obama...it doesn't make one complicite in their Pro-Choice stances so long as you're not voting for them based on that stance. So, a Catholic can vote for either and still be in good standing with The Church. I'm sure that there are Pro-Lifers that are voting for McCain that aren't voting for him because his history of racism or infidelity or of his corruption scandal just as there are Pro-Lifers that aren't voting for Obama because of his Pro-Choice views. Again, I respect your position the most (even more than my own!). |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Oct 29, 2008 12:54:30 GMT -5
Cepha, i guess your not a real Pro- Lifer! lol
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Post by Cepha on Oct 29, 2008 12:59:43 GMT -5
Cepha, i guess your not a real Pro- Lifer! lol I'm a hundred % prolifer...just not to the point that I'd throw away my vote in protest (which again, I respect). I can't deal with another 4 years of trickle down screw the working man policies. ;D |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Oct 29, 2008 23:53:01 GMT -5
The rupublican party is FOR the small business owners, isnt that what you are?
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