Catholic Vote

[cradlecathlic27]

URGENT MEMO
TO: American Catholics
FROM: CatholicVote.com
RE: Barack Obama on the Issues of Importance to Catholics

1. Obama is undecided on whether life begins at conception - Saddleback Church Forum Aug 16th, 2008. Obama voted against born alive protections for abortion survivors four times, and voted against a ban on partial-birth abortion in the Illinois state senate
SOURCES: www.bornalivetruth.org
Audacity of Hope written by Barack Obama

2. Obama has pledged to Planned Parenthood to sign The Freedom of Choice Act, a law which would cancel every state, federal, and local regulation of abortion, no matter how modest or reasonable. It would even abolish all state restrictions on government funding for abortions. Catholics that pay income tax will be paying an abortionist to perform an abortion. It would also abolish state laws that protect Catholic doctors and nurses from losing their jobs if they refuse to participate in abortions. It would abolish requirements for parental notification and informed consent for mothers who consider the procedure. – Obama speech to Planned Parenthood, July 17, 2007
He is endorsed by pro-Abortion industry leader Planned Parenthood and has a 100% NARAL voting record. -

SOURCES: www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/campaigns/barack-obama-endorsement-111.htm
www.naral.org/elections/statements/obama.html

3. Obama would repeal the Mexico City policy, which bars federal funding for international nongovernmental organizations involved in abortion-related services and would pit the US against the Vatican on the international fight against abortion.

SOURCE: www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20080719_6257.php

4. He strongly supports the 1973 Supreme Court decision on abortion rights and says he will oppose any constitutional measure to overturn it. -
SOURCE: www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20080719_6257.php

5. Obama has pledged to choose Justices with a Pro Abortion agenda and he voted against Roberts and Alito.

SOURCE: www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20080719_6257.php

6. Obama voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions and prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion.
SOURCE: www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20080719_6257.php


7. Obama supports the destruction of embryos for experimentation and voted to expand research to more embryonic stem cell lines.

SOURCE: obama.senate.gov/press/070411-obama_renews_su/

8. He voted yes on $100M to fund contraceptives for teens and sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women.

SOURCE: www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20080719_6257.php

9. Voted no on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP a program that gives funds to states in order to provide health insurance to families with children.

SOURCE: www.ncregister.com/site/article/15942

10. He opposed the federal marriage amendment in 2006 and also favors repealing the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which gives a state the right not to recognize same-sex marriages performed in another state.

SOURCE: www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20080719_6257.php


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[cradlecathlic27]

eat that cepha!

[knuckle]

www.romancatholicsforobama.com/


I guess these guys didn't get the memo .......

[redsoxfan]

These guys aren't catholics.

Hmmm....that isn't right either. Thye are catholics but they seem to me to be more moved by this world than the desire for the next.

[Cepha]

Oct 29, 2008 14:22:34 GMT -5 cradlecathlic27 said:

eat that cepha!

Wow...it's a good thing I follow The Catholic Church and not a "group" of Catholics (big difference).



See, you have to obey The Pope (not the radicals).

The See of Peter has spoken.

Now obey it.

;D

The Pope Speaks

"The Church does not tell people how to vote. Nor does it endorse any political party. There is often room for legitimate differences of opinion because it can be difficult to judge which policies – and especially which packages of policies – will contribute best to making “human life more human”

Pope John Paul II

Here's desert for you!

So you see R1 and CC and anybody who has Priests telling you how to vote or endorsing any political figures, they are directly going against Peter's Successor's directives.

When in doubt, Peter comes first above all other of God's men.
I for one will follow only he who has The Key to The Kingdom of Heaven first and foremost for I am a Catholic. And if every Priest condemned me or tried to inject their own personal (outside of The Church's teachings) beliefs in me, I'd soundly renounce them.

If The Pope said "don't vote for Obama", then I wouldn't vote for him. Read what PJPII said again my fellow Catholics with different view. Read it and obey it. For he was chosen by God to lead us.

And whoever doesn't follow The Pope, not only rejects Christ Whom he is the vicar for, but The One Who sent Him...God.



Amen! Saint John Paul The Great!

www.catholicsforobama.org/

[Cepha]

Oct 29, 2008 17:19:07 GMT -5 knuckle said:

www.romancatholicsforobama.com/


I guess these guys didn't get the memo .......

LOL!

Nah...just the far right exremists didn't get the memo!
The "average" Catholics did big time!

LOL!

Nice to see you back brother.

[Cepha]

Oct 29, 2008 14:22:34 GMT -5 cradlecathlic27 said:

eat that cepha!

Hmmm...I wonder why CatholicVote.com doesn't have McCain's Pro-Choice record up.

Do you see the disingenuousness there CC?

[Cepha]

Oct 29, 2008 21:41:49 GMT -5 redsoxfan said:

These guys aren't catholics.

Hmmm....that isn't right either. Thye are catholics but they seem to me to be more moved by this world than the desire for the next.

Good catch there on correcting yourself there bud.

True fact: There are far left Catholics and far right Catholics...all under the same umbrella. The Catholics we should be going after are the "anything" goes Catholics, but not the ones who support Obama for his being more aligned with The Church's positions besides abortion.

Abortion now is being used by Satan to divide the body of Christ.

Think about it...none of you anti-Obamians ever spoke out against Pro-Choice Catholics here. Only pro-Obamian Catholics who are Pro-Life as well.

Food for thought, no?

[Cepha]

Here folks, develop an informed opinion of Senator Obama from your own Catholic brethren.



www.catholicdemocrats.org/cfo/pdf/Catholic_Case_for_Obama_booklet.pdf

[cradlecathlic27]

Democrats are working hard to GET the Catholic vote! duh

[redsoxfan]

Oct 30, 2008 8:34:56 GMT -5 Cepha said:

Oct 29, 2008 21:41:49 GMT -5 redsoxfan said:

These guys aren't catholics.

Hmmm....that isn't right either. Thye are catholics but they seem to me to be more moved by this world than the desire for the next.

Good catch there on correcting yourself there bud.

True fact: There are far left Catholics and far right Catholics...all under the same umbrella. The Catholics we should be going after are the "anything" goes Catholics, but not the ones who support Obama for his being more aligned with The Church's positions besides abortion.

Abortion now is being used by Satan to divide the body of Christ.

Think about it...none of you anti-Obamians ever spoke out against Pro-Choice Catholics here. Only pro-Obamian Catholics who are Pro-Life as well.

Food for thought, no?

People get worked up on this one.

Heck I would have spoken out against Pro-Choice Catholics too if any had the courage to come to this webpage.

They don't. Don't think I would have gone easy on them. They would of had it worse than you did.

[Cepha]

Oct 30, 2008 16:25:11 GMT -5 cradlecathlic27 said:

Democrats are working hard to GET the Catholic vote! duh

To be honest, I really don't think so.

They picked Biden, but Biden is supposedly "not" in good standing with The Catholic Church even though he's a Catholic and Obama hasn't mentioned his own years while he attended a Catholic School for 3 years (I assume because that would give the Anti-Catholics that the Republican Party is filled with another reason to hate him even more).

I, honestly as a Catholic don't feel him (Obama) reaching out to us at all. The only time that as a Catholic I am strongly attracted to him as a candidate is when he speaks of social justice or of his stance against the war or of bringing us back to a moral standing in the world. That's when he's at his best.

[Cepha]

Oct 30, 2008 22:58:11 GMT -5 redsoxfan said:

Oct 30, 2008 8:34:56 GMT -5 Cepha said:

Good catch there on correcting yourself there bud.

True fact: There are far left Catholics and far right Catholics...all under the same umbrella. The Catholics we should be going after are the "anything" goes Catholics, but not the ones who support Obama for his being more aligned with The Church's positions besides abortion.

Abortion now is being used by Satan to divide the body of Christ.

Think about it...none of you anti-Obamians ever spoke out against Pro-Choice Catholics here. Only pro-Obamian Catholics who are Pro-Life as well.

Food for thought, no?

People get worked up on this one.

Heck I would have spoken out against Pro-Choice Catholics too if any had the courage to come to this webpage.

They don't. Don't think I would have gone easy on them. They would of had it worse than you did.

I don't suscribe to that term "pro choice catholic".

No such thing.

If you're pro-choice, then you ain't no Catholic in my view.

[redsoxfan]

Basically what I was saying.

[Cepha]

I believe that The Church doesn't allow communion for anyone who is a Pro-Choice Catholic. I think there's even Excommunication involved for someone who actively professes that they are Pro-Choice. Let me check it out...BRB

[Cepha]

Nov 1, 2008 9:03:06 GMT -5 Cepha said:

I believe that The Church doesn't allow communion for anyone who is a Pro-Choice Catholic. I think there's even Excommunication involved for someone who actively professes that they are Pro-Choice. Let me check it out...BRB

Yep, Catholic Pro-Lifers are excommunicated.