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Post by alfie on Nov 29, 2008 17:59:26 GMT -5
In regards to “sects”- Luther said of the Roman Catholic Church:
“…there is no other place in the world where there are so many sects, schisms, and errors as in the papal church. For the papacy, because it builds the church upon a city and person, has become the head and fountain of all sects which have followed it and have characterized Christian life in terms of eating and drinking, clothes and shoes, tonsures and hair, city and place, day and hour. For the spirituality and holiness of the papal church lives by such things, as was said above. This order fasts at this time, another order fasts at another time; this one does not eat meat, the other one does not eat eggs; this one wears black, the other one white; this one is Carthusian, the other Benedictine; and so they continue to create innumerable sects and habits, while faith and true Christian life go to pieces. All this is the result of the blindness which desires to see rather than believe the Christian church and to seek devout Christian life not in faith but in works, of which St. Paul writes so much in Colossians [2]. These things have invaded the church and blindness has confirmed the government of the pope.”
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Post by Cepha on Nov 30, 2008 13:23:51 GMT -5
In regards to “sects”- Luther said of the Roman Catholic Church: “…there is no other place in the world where there are so many sects, schisms, and errors as in the papal church. For the papacy, because it builds the church upon a city and person, has become the head and fountain of all sects which have followed it and have characterized Christian life in terms of eating and drinking, clothes and shoes, tonsures and hair, city and place, day and hour. For the spirituality and holiness of the papal church lives by such things, as was said above. This order fasts at this time, another order fasts at another time; this one does not eat meat, the other one does not eat eggs; this one wears black, the other one white; this one is Carthusian, the other Benedictine; and so they continue to create innumerable sects and habits, while faith and true Christian life go to pieces. All this is the result of the blindness which desires to see rather than believe the Christian church and to seek devout Christian life not in faith but in works, of which St. Paul writes so much in Colossians [2]. These things have invaded the church and blindness has confirmed the government of the pope.” And he also said this... "That the Roman Church is more honored by God than all others is not to be doubted." Martin Luther Will the "real" Martin Luther please stand up? ;D
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Post by Cepha on Nov 30, 2008 13:25:33 GMT -5
Would you say that Luther thinks that God honors the same papal church you just quoted Luther as saying?
And when you have the same man saying these two things, which do you accept him to really believe?
The one that he said early in his rebellion?
Or the quote that I posted which was said long after his attempt to "re-form" The Catholic Church?
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