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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 3, 2009 23:10:31 GMT -5
Do you smoke? Cigarette taxes are going up.
Do you live in a home? Property taxes are going up.
Do you drive? Gasoline taxes have gone up.
Do you donate to charity? You can deduct less of your donation now as a tax refund.
Do you drink alcohol? The tax on that is up 50%
State level - Top Marginal Rate increase for personal income tax making more than $60,000 will be raised from 5.95% to 6.95% that is an increase of 14%
This is what numbers ive found..
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Post by Cepha on May 4, 2009 8:56:11 GMT -5
Well lets see...there is a medicare tax, and social security tax that workers must pay....im sure they have gone up but have not investigated it. Cigarette taxes have gone up. "i'm sure"? "have not investigated it"? That's what you're basing your beliefs on? Unsubstantiated allegations? As for cigarette taxes, that isn't a tax on the working man! LOL! And people don't "have to" smoke, it's a choice! This isn't an imposed tax on every American citizen!  No? Then why was it that Fox was the only one that was promoting it having actual Specials on it and when the Tea Bag Rallies came on, they didn't air it because of the low turn outs? LMBO! During the actual Rallies, the only ones airing it were MSNBC/CNN because so few people actually showed up (not the MILLIONS) that Fox was predicting! LOL On top of that, when they were over, Fox was the only (and is the only one) STILL having specials on it and still talking about it while the rest of the professional news media is laughing at Fox. Know what's funny? Fox is always bragging about how "the mainstream media" is controlling everything right? But Fox is the highest rated new program in the country. You know what that makes them? The "mainest" mainstream media outlet in America! LMBO! They are such hypocrites! I sit there and watch Glenn Beck do his goofy faces and weep like a little girl just for the laughs! LOL! So in other words, you have not provided one shred of evidence that President Obama has actually raised taxes on 95% of Americans, then right? Again, President Obama has put forth the biggest tax "cut" in recent history. Anybody who says otherwise is lieing. But what can we expect from The Republicans Leadership? The same ones that said that they had proof of WMD's in Iraq and came out with drawings (not photos) to justify what The Pope of The Catholic Church referred to as an "unjust war" (against Catholic teachings). Their liers. They lied about Iraq, they lied about President Obama being a Muslim, a Homosexual and a Terrorist. That's all they can do now. After having complete control of The White House for 8 years (including the Senate and Congress for 6 of those years) and leaving the economy destroyed while Bush/Cheney's fat cat corporate buddies raped the working man, all they can do is try to cover their tracks. That's why only 26% of the country today refer to themselves as Republicans today. America got tired of their lies and left them. Now, Independants are the largest political party (just l predicted).  Anyway, I said all that so you could remember how they lied so much in the past and why they are lieing now. Again, the Tea Baggers are liers too. President Obama is "not" raising taxes. He lowered them. And how's he going to pay for the stimulus package? Didn't you hear his campaign speeches? He said he was cutting corporate tax loopholes put in by Bush and his croanies that allowed his big business buddies to get away with not paying hundreds of Billions of dollars. Once we remove those "tax breaks" from big business, we'll be getting all that money back as taxpayers. Not only that, he's ending the war. Know what that means? Another 120 Billion Dollars that will be spent on American Soil instead of in a foreign country that never attacked us or had anything to do with 9/11 in the first place. It's all really just common sense.  |
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Post by Cepha on May 4, 2009 8:57:09 GMT -5
The way I understand it Obama is planning on doubling the social security tax along with increasing the poverty tax. Where do you understand this from? Where'd you hear it? Do you have a source we can test to see if it's an accurate accusation? |
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Post by Cepha on May 4, 2009 9:03:26 GMT -5
Do you smoke? Cigarette taxes are going up. I don't smoke. And that's not an imposed tax. Smoking is optional. Those are local lawmakers decisions, not federal raises. Talk to you local elected officials. What's a few pennies on the dollar to provide jobs to build roads compared to the 150% price raises that the Bush Administration allowed while they were in office. Where you complaining about the President's job then? Hmmm...what business are the Bush's in? Oh yeah..BIG OIL! Surprised that gas prices dropped down as soon as President Obama was elected and Bush was on his way out? Again, that is not an imposed tax. Charity donations are not mandatory, but voluntary. Good! Another "voluntary" expendature (not a mandatory tax. And I don't drink! So, neither will I be paying any higher taxes on smoking or drinking because I do neither! (You know, gotta keep The Temple pure and not pollute it with lung cancer and drunkedness! ) Hello? That's state, not federal. President Obama does not control states' taxes. Your Governor (who want's to leave The United States and form his own country) does that, so talk to him! LOL! And now, the juicy part...exactly "where" did you find these numbers? Hmmm...I wonder! LOL |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 4, 2009 11:52:45 GMT -5
Hey i did find the numbers on a liberal site, forgot the name sorry. But im all about being honest.
- Yes the state votes rather or not they want new schools, but how about the money in the package that goes to building new schools? Is that something we get to choose? If not, that is an imposed tax. What about sales tax? That is imposed.
My Govener Perry, does not WANT to make texas its own union, but said that it could happen and we would do just fine financially if we needed to. And we might one day if the government tries to run our state.
Me stating the taxes that were raised is the point that he HAS risen TAXES, he did lower the FIT, but there are many other taxes out their that have or will be raised.
And please, when was the last time i spoke about Bill Clinton or Bush. Lets stick with the present, you have a hard time with that..
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 4, 2009 12:11:18 GMT -5
Stopping the war, cuttting back?
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Post by Cepha on May 5, 2009 10:06:46 GMT -5
Stopping the war, cuttting back? Yep! Now, let's stop getting revenge on Sadam's people for his having eluded Bush I and let's get going after those who actually attacked us on 9/11! This is a just war (according to The Catholic Church!)! Go get 'em President Obama! Go get Bin Ladin (who Bush and The Republicans failed to capture and who Bush wasn't concerned with!)! Finally! A President who knows how to fight a war! |
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Post by Cepha on May 5, 2009 10:26:21 GMT -5
Hey i did find the numbers on a liberal site, forgot the name sorry. But im all about being honest. Hmmm...how " convenient".  Hello? It's the Fed's job to determine where the money goes! That's their job! And it's not an imposed tax, but you are actually getting money! LOL! Sales tax? Local. Fed Tax? Not personal income. Hello? No, no, no, that's not what he said! He said Texas would "have to" secede (not that it could happen, that but that it would have to happen!). Rick Perry "Texas might have to secede.”And for all whining, he then went and asked the Federal Government for money after saying that he wanted Federal Government to let them do their own thing. LOL And guess what...The Government already runs Texas! It's not The United State of Texas! Texas belongs to The United States! LOL! Texas is "my" state too! And San Francisco's and Greenwich Village's! LOL! Show me where Obama has raised taxes? As for what "will be raised", that's all "air". Let's talk about what you proclaimed (still waiting for a reference). And, the Teabaggers were talking about him raising taxes on them (not just on smokers or drinkers or special interest groups, but on the common working man). No, no, no...it's absolutely appropriate for this President to be compared to the last President when you are talking about raising taxes because we have to see who it was that did it last time. I know you might not want to talk about Bush, but it's precisely because of Bush that Obama has to do what he's doing now (cleaning up his mess). That's like going to a crime scene and not wanting to discuss the murderer. We have to talk about the murderer in order to solve the crime! LOL! Are you under the impression that President Obama is the one who piggybacked out debt onto our children and grandchildren? That they didn't already have the Trillion Dollar Deficit Bush left them on their backs? |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 5, 2009 14:20:23 GMT -5
To answer your last question.... just because there was ALREADY a TRILLION dollar deficit..does not mean that we need to triple it!
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 5, 2009 14:35:58 GMT -5
Here is a good website... www.federalbudget.com/"Everyone pays hidden taxes on everything purchased. The burden is heavy, about 26 - 30% of the cost of every product or service you purchase." Anyhow you can read from the websites and get the info from there. wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=93778"Energy costs being bumped $2,000 per household Researcher says tax could be biggest levy ever in the U.S." |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 5, 2009 15:31:53 GMT -5
Hey i did find the numbers on a liberal site, forgot the name sorry. But im all about being honest. Hmmm...how " convenient". Hello? It's the Fed's job to determine where the money goes! That's their job! And it's not an imposed tax, but you are actually getting money! LOL! Sales tax? Local. Fed Tax? Not personal income. Hello? No, no, no, that's not what he said! He said Texas would "have to" secede (not that it could happen, that but that it would have to happen!). Rick Perry "Texas might have to secede.”And for all whining, he then went and asked the Federal Government for money after saying that he wanted Federal Government to let them do their own thing. LOL And guess what...The Government already runs Texas! It's not The United State of Texas! Texas belongs to The United States! LOL! Texas is "my" state too! And San Francisco's and Greenwich Village's! LOL! Show me where Obama has raised taxes? As for what "will be raised", that's all "air". Let's talk about what you proclaimed (still waiting for a reference). And, the Teabaggers were talking about him raising taxes on them (not just on smokers or drinkers or special interest groups, but on the common working man). No, no, no...it's absolutely appropriate for this President to be compared to the last President when you are talking about raising taxes because we have to see who it was that did it last time. I know you might not want to talk about Bush, but it's precisely because of Bush that Obama has to do what he's doing now (cleaning up his mess). That's like going to a crime scene and not wanting to discuss the murderer. We have to talk about the murderer in order to solve the crime! LOL! Are you under the impression that President Obama is the one who piggybacked out debt onto our children and grandchildren? That they didn't already have the Trillion Dollar Deficit Bush left them on their backs? Rick Perry... Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that. "There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot." www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/governor-says-texans-want-secede-union-probably-wont/Get your story right! |
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Post by alfie on May 5, 2009 19:32:27 GMT -5
The way I understand it Obama is planning on doubling the social security tax along with increasing the poverty tax. Where do you understand this from? Where'd you hear it? Do you have a source we can test to see if it's an accurate accusation? Another web-site. |
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Post by alfie on May 5, 2009 19:35:24 GMT -5
Greatest Line Ever Against Democrats
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Post by emily445455 on May 5, 2009 20:28:59 GMT -5
hahaha
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Post by Cepha on May 6, 2009 9:28:39 GMT -5
To answer your last question.... just because there was ALREADY a TRILLION dollar deficit..does not mean that we need to triple it! Who told you that the deficit is "tripled"? Was it that "liberal" website that I'm still waiting for you to cite? Where are you getting your information from? Anti-Obamians? And the dificit was more than just a trillion BEFORE President Obama was elected by the American people. |
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Post by Cepha on May 6, 2009 10:04:15 GMT -5
Here is a good website... www.federalbudget.com/"Everyone pays hidden taxes on everything purchased. The burden is heavy, about 26 - 30% of the cost of every product or service you purchase." Anyhow you can read from the websites and get the info from there. wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=93778"Energy costs being bumped $2,000 per household Researcher says tax could be biggest levy ever in the U.S." And you're under the impression that the current administration brought all this about? |
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Post by Cepha on May 6, 2009 10:21:55 GMT -5
Rick Perry... Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that. "There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot." www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/governor-says-texans-want-secede-union-probably-wont/Get your story right! Ahhh...Rick Perry! Secessionist! Good riddens! Has the nerve to brag about how "independant" Texas is and how they don't need Washington's money, yet is the Governor of the state that has gotten the most federal funds of all 50 States in the history of The U.S.! What a hypocrite! LOL! On top of that, he just asked for more money from the government! Lier lier pants on fire Perry! LOL! Me? I think Texas should secceed. Their anti-American. They should become their own country and stop taking our money! LOL! |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 6, 2009 10:26:01 GMT -5
Um...not all of it. But i can and will say the administration has and will raise taxes. I gave you an excellent source...did you even read any of the info?
What do you think about raising the FICA taxes? Paying into social security that we wont even see.
How do you think medicaid is paid for....coming out of our tax dollars. So the president thinks everyone should have health insurance so lets just make everyone that works hard for their own high cost insurance to pay for it. It just is'nt right.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 6, 2009 10:33:15 GMT -5
Rick Perry... Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that. "There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot." www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/governor-says-texans-want-secede-union-probably-wont/Get your story right! Ahhh...Rick Perry! Secessionist! Good riddens! Has the nerve to brag about how "independant" Texas is and how they don't need Washington's money, yet is the Governor of the state that has gotten the most federal funds of all 50 States in the history of The U.S.! What a hypocrite! LOL! On top of that, he just asked for more money from the government! Lier lier pants on fire Perry! LOL! Me? I think Texas should secceed. Their anti-American. They should become their own country and stop taking our money! LOL! I find that offensive, you cant classify texas as a whole Anti-american. That just shows your racism and ignorance. You do realise that you are calling me anti american. It is pure fact that Texas could financially support itself, we have two of the largest productive cities in the world not to mention all the oil. Does not mean we want to secede, but that we legally can. |
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Post by Cepha on May 6, 2009 11:13:43 GMT -5
Where do you understand this from? Where'd you hear it? Do you have a source we can test to see if it's an accurate accusation? Another web-site. Ok...can we "see" what that website so that we can test it's spirit and see if it is worthy of being trusted? |
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