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Post by frillysunshine on Apr 6, 2009 8:51:52 GMT -5
Greetings. I am very familiar with holiness. In fact, I was raised in it. I am very familiar with the preacher named Pastor Jennings. I know many people don't agree with him or how he preaches God's word, but he is right. I've tried to see religion through other eyes and I did succeed, but it felt false knowing what I knew. I understand where many of you are coming from who don't agree with the type of faith I practice and that's fine, just don't try to belittle the ministers who preach it. It's an insult to me and my family and I can't tolerate it. If you do disagree with our views on Catholicism that's fine, just say it rather than spewing thoughts out of moments of rage. Feel free to discuss it with me, I'm open, but don't expect me to preach and quote scripture word by word. I'll give numbers and paraphrase just to be on the safe side of things.
L8r.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 6, 2009 10:06:17 GMT -5
ok....what religion are you? I have no idea who pastor jennings is.
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 6, 2009 10:07:48 GMT -5
i've never heard of him either.
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Post by teresahrc on Apr 6, 2009 14:42:53 GMT -5
frillysunshine;
You are welcome to come here of course. You can express your own beliefs/ opinions etc.
This site is about the Catholic Church so of course we are against anything anti-catholic, but that doesn't mean we are against the people themselves.
I'm not sure how anyone was belittling ministers here unless I missed something. Why don't you explain what you are upset about and we can talk about the issues.
peace
teresa
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Post by Cepha on Apr 6, 2009 19:06:12 GMT -5
Greetings. I am very familiar with holiness. In fact, I was raised in it. I am very familiar with the preacher named Pastor Jennings. I know many people don't agree with him or how he preaches God's word, but he is right. I've tried to see religion through other eyes and I did succeed, but it felt false knowing what I knew. I understand where many of you are coming from who don't agree with the type of faith I practice and that's fine, just don't try to belittle the ministers who preach it. It's an insult to me and my family and I can't tolerate it. If you do disagree with our views on Catholicism that's fine, just say it rather than spewing thoughts out of moments of rage. Feel free to discuss it with me, I'm open, but don't expect me to preach and quote scripture word by word. I'll give numbers and paraphrase just to be on the safe side of things. L8r. Hi Frilly and welcome aboard.  First of all, as I told you earlier, you'll see that Gino, in his attempt to become like the original Christians has taken on uniquely Catholic traditions (like women covering their heads in service, the use of all of The Christian books of the Old Testament, etc...). That, I like about him. And in fact, there's nothing really that I "don't" like about him. Now, if you please, could you confirm this or deny this for me? Gino Jennings created his own Bible called "The Scripture" based on The Holy Bible? Also, does your church practice the eucharistic meal of passover like Jesus did? I'd see your church more likely to reflect traditional Christianity based on what I've seen Gino preach out of all the Protestant (non-Catholic Christian) churches. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 6, 2009 19:13:47 GMT -5
frillysunshine; You are welcome to come here of course. You can express your own beliefs/ opinions etc. This site is about the Catholic Church so of course we are against anything anti-catholic, but that doesn't mean we are against the people themselves. I'm not sure how anyone was belittling ministers here unless I missed something. Why don't you explain what you are upset about and we can talk about the issues. peace teresa Me..."kind of". But wasn't attacking Pastor Gino directly. I was saying dumb things about him incite. But he is a really interesting person who in a desire to go back to original Christianity, began to practice Catholic tradtions. Even though he doesn't believe that The Catholic Church is valid. But, I'll let Frilly talk about him as I know really very little.  |
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Post by frillysunshine on Apr 6, 2009 19:34:58 GMT -5
He didn't create his own bible. Scripture was taken out so he simply added it back in. All of the scripture added can be proven by it's mentioning in the text already in the bible. For instance in Joshua 10 it says "Is not this written in the book of Jasher?" That's the reason why he added Jasher.
And as for Passover. Passover is Communion to us. We don't celebrate Easter because we don't know when it happened just like we don't celebrate Christmas, but we do celebrate communion as much as possible and that is considered to serve as passover as that was what Jesus and the Apostles were practicing during their Communion.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 6, 2009 20:12:24 GMT -5
He didn't create his own bible. Scripture was taken out so he simply added it back in. All of the scripture added can be proven by it's mentioning in the text already in the bible. For instance in Joshua 10 it says "Is not this written in the book of Jasher?" That's the reason why he added Jasher. And as for Passover. Passover is Communion to us. We don't celebrate Easter because we don't know when it happened just like we don't celebrate Christmas, but we do celebrate communion as much as possible and that is considered to serve as passover as that was what Jesus and the Apostles were practicing during their Communion. Does he have the Book of Enoch in his version? (Jesus quoted from Enoch, but it was never canonical.) Is it true that he gives his version a different name than it's historical name (The Holy Bible)? Historically, for Christians, it's been called The Eucharist (eucharist being Greek for "thanksgiving meal" which is literally, The Passover Meal that Jesus celebrated). Only we call it The Eucharist so that it's not confused with the Jewish Passover Meal. |
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Post by ezekiel33 on Apr 6, 2009 20:16:41 GMT -5
frillysunshine; You are welcome to come here of course. You can express your own beliefs/ opinions etc. This site is about the Catholic Church so of course we are against anything anti-catholic, but that doesn't mean we are against the people themselves. I'm not sure how anyone was belittling ministers here unless I missed something. Why don't you explain what you are upset about and we can talk about the issues. peace teresa I thought this was a christian site, are you saying this site is for catholics only? |
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Post by ezekiel33 on Apr 6, 2009 20:19:39 GMT -5
He didn't create his own bible. Scripture was taken out so he simply added it back in. All of the scripture added can be proven by it's mentioning in the text already in the bible. For instance in Joshua 10 it says "Is not this written in the book of Jasher?" That's the reason why he added Jasher. And as for Passover. Passover is Communion to us. We don't celebrate Easter because we don't know when it happened just like we don't celebrate Christmas, but we do celebrate communion as much as possible and that is considered to serve as passover as that was what Jesus and the Apostles were practicing during their Communion. Hate to break to you but Jesus was not born December 25th. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 7, 2009 12:07:04 GMT -5
I thought this was a christian site, are you saying this site is for catholics only? Christians=Catholics (remember? The first Christian religion ever established?) |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 7, 2009 12:08:08 GMT -5
He didn't create his own bible. Scripture was taken out so he simply added it back in. All of the scripture added can be proven by it's mentioning in the text already in the bible. For instance in Joshua 10 it says "Is not this written in the book of Jasher?" That's the reason why he added Jasher. And as for Passover. Passover is Communion to us. We don't celebrate Easter because we don't know when it happened just like we don't celebrate Christmas, but we do celebrate communion as much as possible and that is considered to serve as passover as that was what Jesus and the Apostles were practicing during their Communion. Hate to break to you but Jesus was not born December 25th. That's exactly what Frilly said...so exactly "what" are you breaking to her? |
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Post by teresahrc on Apr 7, 2009 14:40:54 GMT -5
No, it's not for Catholics only. Anyone can come here unless they start being really mean and rude.
But if I'm not mistaken, this board is about and in defense of the Catholic Church.
teresa
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Post by ezekiel33 on Apr 7, 2009 15:03:30 GMT -5
I thought this was a christian site, are you saying this site is for catholics only? Christians=Catholics (remember? The first Christian religion ever established?) Some catholics may be christians, but not all christians are catholic, and Christianity is not a religion at all, not true Christianity at least. |
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Post by ezekiel33 on Apr 7, 2009 15:04:42 GMT -5
Hate to break to you but Jesus was not born December 25th. That's exactly what Frilly said...so exactly "what" are you breaking to her? Ahhh I misunderstood her, sorry frilly  |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 7, 2009 15:06:34 GMT -5
Christians=Catholics (remember? The first Christian religion ever established?) Some catholics may be christians, but not all christians are catholic, and Christianity is not a religion at all, not true Christianity at least. Well, we can just allow The Holy Bible to define what a "Christian" is (not man). Again, I'm a man...not qualified to say who "isn't" a Christian. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 7, 2009 15:10:13 GMT -5
That's exactly what Frilly said...so exactly "what" are you breaking to her? Ahhh I misunderstood her, sorry frilly There's this site called BethlehemStar.net I think that literally showed the moment when the stars lined up in heaven to create the North Star's reflection of the sun at night. They pegged it back to 0 Century in the last week of December. It's all scientifically substantiated. www.bethlehemstar.net/ |
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Post by frillysunshine on Apr 8, 2009 21:53:57 GMT -5
We call your eucharist "communion"? That's what it is for us and only those who are truly sincere and repentant in what they do can take it. We take it literally as in if Jesus were to come back at any moment you would be justified in what you've done. However, our faith "Holiness" isn't perfect. Even though we believe we are the true church, we're not the only church. It's one church with different branches all over the world. We literally think of ourselves as the Bride. So we have yet to be perfect or else the world would be at an end. Besides that won't happen until Revelations has come to pass and God's word has reached the corners of the earth.
Something else I want to say is that I'm not Catholic. I'm not completely familiar with Catholic doctrine. However, there are some things my faith does believe that is strictly in contradiction with Catholic faith. We don't believe in a pope because we believe all people have the same access to God. We don't believe in any images inside a church because it is akin to idolatry. We also believe in full submergence when being baptized and that one must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ (and not Father, Son, Holyghost) because the "trinity" is no more than titles with one name and also because to be submerges is to be baptized.
Someone said something related to Christmas being true because it is scientifically substantiated, I don't believe in science. I believe some science is accurate, but science isn't final. It never has been with the many proofs that have come about. The Catholic Church once believed the world was flat and that everything revolved around Earth. So unless it can be proven in real time I doubt it. The only thing I don't doubt is my faith in God.
And another thing (Sorry) I believe the first Christians were the Jews. After all much of Christian faith is based on "Judaism" which many in my faith believe is "Holiness". The bible to us isn't split in half. All of it is connected. Jesus was not only the son of God, but God's spirit was in him. He was made of His spirit. So when we think of God we think of Jesus. However many Jews don't accept this, but it is their religion also. In fact it was their religion first before God became upset with them and turned many if not all of them over to a reprobated mind. It's sad, but it is truth. Most of the Old Testament deals with most of that. I'm not completely saddened because if it wasn't for that many Gentiles like us wouldn't be able to become spiritual Jews.
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