Post by Cepha on May 12, 2009 13:52:42 GMT -5
Tell you what...let's just take Ireneaus' statements on The Papacy of The Roman Catholic Church:
Let us focus on "this" teaching by Irenaeus and notice something here about how he talks about The Pope of The Roman Catholic Church and defends it...
Ireneaus
The blessed apostles [Peter and Paul], having founded and built up the church [of Rome], they handed over the office of the episcopate to Linus.
Here, he clearly states that The Church is built up "in" Rome and singles out The Church "of Rome" as The Church founded by The Apostles Peter and Paul...they (Peter and Paul) handed over the position as Bishop (which is what episcopate means) to Linus.
Now, who was Linus?
Saint Linus (d. ca.76) was the second Bishop of Rome, according to Irenaeus, Jerome, Eusebius, John Chrysostom, the Liberian Catalogue and the Liber Pontificalis; he was succeeded by Anacletus.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Linus
So who was Linus in Christian history?
He is the 2nd Pope of The Roman Catholic Church!
Not only that, Saint Paul mentions him in Timothy!
2 Timothy 4:21
Do your utmost to come before winter. Eubulus greets you, as well as Pudens, Linus, Claudia, and all the brethren.
Is this a "Catholic" teaching that Linus was a direct student of The Apostle Paul?
NO! Irenaeus himself said this!
Ireneaus
Paul makes mention of this Linus in the letter to Timothy [2 Tim. 4:21]. To him succeeded Anacletus, and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was chosen for the episcopate.
To this Clement, Evaristus succeeded . . . and now, in the twelfth place after the apostles, the lot of the episcopate [of Rome] has fallen to Eleutherius. In this order, and by the teaching of the apostles handed down in the Church, the preaching of the truth has come down to us"
Who are these men? Anacletus, Clement? Evaristus? Eleutherius?
They were Popes #'s 3, 4, 5 & 13!
So, what is Ireneaus stating here?
He is literally listing The Popes of The Catholic Church!
First Century
St. Peter (c.33-67AD)
Linus (? 67-76)
Anacletus (? 76-88)
Clement I (? 88-97)
Evaristus (? 97-105)
Second Century
Alexander I (? 105-15)
Sixtus I (? 115-25)
Telesphorus (? 125-36)
Hyginus (? 136-40)
Pius I (? 140-55)
Anicetus (? 155-66)
Soter (? 166-75)
Eleutherius (? 175-89)
www.britannia.com/history/resource/popes.html
Let us focus on "this" teaching by Irenaeus and notice something here about how he talks about The Pope of The Roman Catholic Church and defends it...
Ireneaus
The blessed apostles [Peter and Paul], having founded and built up the church [of Rome], they handed over the office of the episcopate to Linus.
Here, he clearly states that The Church is built up "in" Rome and singles out The Church "of Rome" as The Church founded by The Apostles Peter and Paul...they (Peter and Paul) handed over the position as Bishop (which is what episcopate means) to Linus.
Now, who was Linus?
Saint Linus (d. ca.76) was the second Bishop of Rome, according to Irenaeus, Jerome, Eusebius, John Chrysostom, the Liberian Catalogue and the Liber Pontificalis; he was succeeded by Anacletus.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Linus
So who was Linus in Christian history?
He is the 2nd Pope of The Roman Catholic Church!
Not only that, Saint Paul mentions him in Timothy!
2 Timothy 4:21
Do your utmost to come before winter. Eubulus greets you, as well as Pudens, Linus, Claudia, and all the brethren.
Is this a "Catholic" teaching that Linus was a direct student of The Apostle Paul?
NO! Irenaeus himself said this!
Ireneaus
Paul makes mention of this Linus in the letter to Timothy [2 Tim. 4:21]. To him succeeded Anacletus, and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was chosen for the episcopate.
To this Clement, Evaristus succeeded . . . and now, in the twelfth place after the apostles, the lot of the episcopate [of Rome] has fallen to Eleutherius. In this order, and by the teaching of the apostles handed down in the Church, the preaching of the truth has come down to us"
Who are these men? Anacletus, Clement? Evaristus? Eleutherius?
They were Popes #'s 3, 4, 5 & 13!
So, what is Ireneaus stating here?
He is literally listing The Popes of The Catholic Church!
First Century
St. Peter (c.33-67AD)
Linus (? 67-76)
Anacletus (? 76-88)
Clement I (? 88-97)
Evaristus (? 97-105)
Second Century
Alexander I (? 105-15)
Sixtus I (? 115-25)
Telesphorus (? 125-36)
Hyginus (? 136-40)
Pius I (? 140-55)
Anicetus (? 155-66)
Soter (? 166-75)
Eleutherius (? 175-89)
www.britannia.com/history/resource/popes.html