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Post by teresahrc on Jun 3, 2009 22:23:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not talking about that--I don't mind discussing stuff like that. Just trust me when I say that many of the post on here have been crazy.
They are like quoting the Church Fathers and the Bible to have a debate about body fluids. LOL! They are definitely..... silly.
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 3, 2009 22:25:03 GMT -5
Hey guys, why don't you move your body fluids discussion to the debate board. That would be really entertaining!!
You could call it "SLUDGEM" it's an official acronym that means
"Salivation, Lacrimation, Urination, Defecation, Gastric Distress, Emesis and Miosis"
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Post by Ramon on Jun 3, 2009 22:31:15 GMT -5
LOL! Yea, this thread has become crazy. First we was discussing birth control, then it got derailing to Masturbation, now it's about body fluids/sperms......wow....LOL!
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Post by watchman on Jun 3, 2009 22:57:20 GMT -5
hahaha yeah, any other forum and this thread would have been shut down long ago. I say kudoes to cepha for keeping it open. Although I did thuroughly defeat him ;D   |
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 3, 2009 22:59:30 GMT -5
He only kept it open cause he's a boy. If a woman were in charge, it probably would have shut down! I just roll my eyes and laugh at you all.
OMY GOODness that reminds me of something that was funny (at least to me).
I was at my good friend Jill's house for a sort of "potluck" dinner. She and her husband are devout Catholics. Her husband is like Irish or British--very quiet and polite. Jill is half Jewish (and Italian??) and VERY not quiet or private. Any, her husband happened to be the only adult male there and so the conversations were definitely female oriented. I was telling her about the food I made which was like a broccoli and carrot salad with a bunch of sesame seeds and sesame oil. Then I started telling her that I know my period is about to start when I make stuff with sesame (a weird subconscious craving I get) and that's all I said--nothing graphic at all.. and he like turned red and walked away and then Jill said he never could talk about "female" things! A few minutes later, I heard him in the other room saying Hail Marys! LOL!! Poor guy. So now I try to be more "discreet" at least in person.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 4, 2009 8:30:45 GMT -5
This is good! Now, what "law" is Paul referring to here! Are you trying to say "The Law" of God? Why didn't you use Romans 6:15 right after that? 15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! O.K. show where is say pulling out is sin, and I do not mean the Levitical law because we know we do not need to keep it because the food laws have been change and also the shaving laws and many many more there is no reason to assume we must keep a single livitical law if we are not to keep them all. Oh. I forgot. You pick and choose what in scripture applies to you personally. I posted the scriptures that showed that when a man spills his seed outside of a woman, he is unclean. Contrary to your personal interpretation of scripture, Jesus says The Law is in effect until His return, thus, that law is still in effect. No where in The Bible does it states that God's Laws are only for The Jews. No where in The Bible does it state that we are "not" to obey those laws. In fact, to the contrary, it literally states that those all those laws are written on everyman's heart (including Jews, Muslims, Christians, etc...). Romans 2. You could parse it however you want to to convince yourself that masterbating to your wife's images is "okay" with God. But the facts remain. No where in scripture is that law ever retracted like the law of food is with Peter in Acts. There's no such thing as "that don't count anymore". Unless of course, you're a post 16th Century Protestant. Then you can make up "new" man-made rules and ignore The Bible. ;D |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 4, 2009 8:39:16 GMT -5
You have been defeated anyone who reads this thread will see for themselves. Just because you say I'm defeated, that don't make it so. See, there are still questions that you refuse to answer (like show me in The Bible where the law of unclean discharges was repealed). Also, you stated that bodily discharges "outside" of the woman are considered clean, yet you haven't posted one scripture that states what you personally believe. You tried to use the law for "food", but food has nothing to do with unclean discharges. And you never answered this question either (not surprisingly): Do you believe that just because one law was done away with for both jews and gentiles (the one about food), that all the laws were also done away with even though Jesus said that the law would remain in effect until His return? Yes? Or no? I'm sure you'd love to stop talking about this because then you wouldn't have to answer the questions that you continue to bob and weave and avoid, but anybody who knows me knows that I will not quit.  |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 4, 2009 8:40:36 GMT -5
If Gentiles never were and still are not under the Livitical Law then what is your point supposed to be. You quoting the Livitical Law to a Gentile seems pretty pointless huh? Answer the questions posted. Victory doesn't come from proclamation. It comes from responding to the challenges. Post your evidence for the questions I asked you. Or just admint that you cannot. |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 4, 2009 9:01:18 GMT -5
This whole thread is a downward spiral of ridiculousness and may I add--grossness! I know, right? LOL! But you know me! I never shy away when I hear riduculous beliefs spewed! (no pun intended! LOL ) |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 4, 2009 9:01:38 GMT -5
Lol Heather!! I am so glad my hubby isn't like that!! I am way too vocal and open about things like that! Thankfully, he grew up with two sisters...his older one isn't too hush-hush about things like that herself, yay for my SIL!!
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Post by Cepha on Jun 4, 2009 9:13:39 GMT -5
hahaha yeah, any other forum and this thread would have been shut down long ago. I say kudoes to cepha for keeping it open. Kudos accepted. ;D But...  |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 4, 2009 9:14:17 GMT -5
LOL! Yea, this thread has become crazy. First we was discussing birth control, then it got derailing to Masturbation, now it's about body fluids/sperms......wow....LOL! No! We'll have no premature ending of this discussion! LOL! |
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Post by watchman on Jun 4, 2009 10:24:23 GMT -5
You have been defeated anyone who reads this thread will see for themselves. Just because you say I'm defeated, that don't make it so. You are absolutely correct, it is not just because I say so. It is because I have shown not we Gentile are not under the Livitical Law, and that all things are clean, and that pulling out is not fornication, that is why you are defeated, not because I say so. ;D Oh, by the way. Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.All mean all, and that includes pulling out, and the marriage bed is undefiled. Yep, I win |
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Post by watchman on Jun 4, 2009 10:28:02 GMT -5
Do you believe that just because one law was done away with for both jews and gentiles (the one about food), that all the laws were also done away with even though Jesus said that the law would remain in effect until His return? Yes? Or no? You think only one law was done away, what a joke, we need not keep our hair unrounded or our beards, that makes at least two right? Moreover I have shown with scripture and you have already conceded that Gentile have never been under the Livitical law so why are you even bothering quoting it to me a Gentile? Yep I win |
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 4, 2009 20:40:15 GMT -5
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Post by Cepha on Jun 5, 2009 8:06:39 GMT -5
You are absolutely correct, it is not just because I say so. It is because I have shown not we Gentile are not under the Livitical Law, and that all things are clean, and that pulling out is not fornication, that is why you are defeated, not because I say so. ;D Oh, by the way. Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.All mean all, and that includes pulling out, and the marriage bed is undefiled. Yep, I win I know you want to rush past the questions I posted and claim victory, but you can't. You haven't answered the questions. I've never known anybody to be able to claim victory about a topic without addressing the topic. The questions remain unresponded to. I'll wait. And I'll ride you everyday until you answer them. ;D You never posted one scripture that states that spilling your seed is deemed clean by God. Not one. I |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 5, 2009 8:08:23 GMT -5
Oh, by the way. Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.All mean all, and that includes pulling out, and the marriage bed is undefiled. Yep, I win That scripture doesn't mention incomplete acts of sex. But wait a minute, if I remember correctly, aren't you the same guy who believes that sodomy is honorable as long as the couple engaged in it are married? Was that you who said that?  |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 5, 2009 8:23:00 GMT -5
Do you believe that just because one law was done away with for both jews and gentiles (the one about food), that all the laws were also done away with even though Jesus said that the law would remain in effect until His return? Yes? Or no? You think only one law was done away, what a joke, Jesus said that The Law would be in effect until His return. Scripture tells us that at least the issue concerning clean food was abolished. However, no laws regarding bodily discharges were discontinued according to scripture (remember, we're not talking about hair, but bodily discharges...please try to focus on the topic of the exchange here. We can address hair issues on another thread. I know you can't post proof of bodily discharges being deemed clean by scripture and you want to divert attention away from bodily discharges, but we will not.). The only way The Law would "not" be in effect today would be if all things have been fullfilled (meaning, Jesus' return to earth). Matthew 5 17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Do you disagree with Jesus when He said that (Matthew 5:18)? You do understand that your belief that The Law was abolished completely contradicts what Jesus said there, right? I would be happy to discuss hair with you on a different thread, but this one here (try as you might to change the subject) is about bodily discharges which you said The Bible states are now to be considered clean (even though you didn't post any scriptures stating this). No where in The Bible does it state that the law concerning bodily discharges are only to apply to Jews. Basically, one would have to believe that non-Jews would only have to live by 11 or 12 commandments then, right? You keep jumping here, you keep jumping there, but you still haven't posted one scripture that states that bodily discharges are now considered clean or even that bodily discharges are clean for Gentiles, have you? Not one. You talk about hair, you talk about food, but you don't talk about either Matthew 5:18, nor have you posted any scriptures that talk about bodily discharges outside of a woman as being clean. I don't know what you think you've "won", but I do know that you continue to dodge the question and to put up unrelated scriptures to what we're discussing. But I can wait. ;D |
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Post by watchman on Jun 5, 2009 9:52:47 GMT -5
You are absolutely correct, it is not just because I say so. It is because I have shown not we Gentile are not under the Livitical Law, and that all things are clean, and that pulling out is not fornication, that is why you are defeated, not because I say so. ;D Oh, by the way. Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.All mean all, and that includes pulling out, and the marriage bed is undefiled. Yep, I win I know you want to rush past the questions I posted and claim victory, but you can't. You haven't answered the questions. I've never known anybody to be able to claim victory about a topic without addressing the topic. The questions remain unresponded to. I'll wait. And I'll ride you everyday until you answer them. ;D You never posted one scripture that states that spilling your seed is deemed clean by God. Not one. I Yes I have many of them including Hebrews 13:4, admit your defeat you are embarrassing yourself. Do you have no shame? |
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Post by watchman on Jun 5, 2009 9:58:53 GMT -5
Oh, by the way. Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.All mean all, and that includes pulling out, and the marriage bed is undefiled. Yep, I win That scripture doesn't mention incomplete acts of sex. But wait a minute, if I remember correctly, aren't you the same guy who believes that sodomy is honorable as long as the couple engaged in it are married? Was that you who said that? Once again I do not practice sodomy with my wife but God says...... Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.I wonder do you know the definitions of ALL or UNDEFILED? all /ɔl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [awl] Show IPA –adjective 1. the whole of (used in referring to quantity, extent, or duration): all the cake; all the way; all year. 2. the whole number of (used in referring to individuals or particulars, taken collectively): all students. 3. the greatest possible (used in referring to quality or degree): with all due respect; with all speed. 4. every: all kinds; all sorts. 5. any; any whatever: beyond all doubt. 6. nothing but; only: The coat is all wool. 7. dominated by or as if by the conspicuous possession or use of a particular feature: The colt was all legs. They were all ears, listening attentively to everything she said. 8. Chiefly Pennsylvania German. all gone; consumed; finished: The pie is all. –pronoun 9. the whole quantity or amount: He ate all of the peanuts. All are gone. 10. the whole number; every one: all of us. 11. everything: Is that all you want to say? All is lost. –noun 12. one's whole interest, energy, or property: to give one's all; to lose one's all. 13. (often initial capital letter) the entire universe. –adverb 14. wholly; entirely; completely: all alone. 15. only; exclusively: He spent his income all on pleasure. 16. each; apiece: The score was one all. 17. Archaic. even; just. undefiled c.1300, undefylde, from un- (1) "not" + pp. of defile (v.). Originally of morals; sexual sense is attested from c.1450. Physical sense of "not made dirty" is from 1590. Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper Cite This Source Explore the Visual Thesaurus » Related Words for : undefiled immaculate, uncorrupted So marriage in ALL thing is not dirty or uncorrupted. Remember I didn't say it. The HOLY BIBLE does. Your argument is not with me it is with God. |
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