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Post by teresahrc on Jun 13, 2009 20:39:27 GMT -5
I'm not trying to make anyone sick.
So you believe that the Bible is literally Jesus Christ's mind? I'm confused.
Jesus Christ is called the Logos in Greek.
The Scriptures are called "graphe" (sp?) And there is also the Rhema--sort of like God's spoken words, words from God that are "living" God speaking to Man.
I have no doubt that the Bible is God's word (graphe) and also, God speaks to us(Rhema) through it.
But Jesus is not the Bible. The Bible is not Jesus.
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 13, 2009 20:41:34 GMT -5
The BIble is Jesus's Words and Mind.
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 13, 2009 20:44:21 GMT -5
So you worship the Bible? How did people know Jesus' Words and Mind before the BIble was finished?
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 13, 2009 20:55:10 GMT -5
I don't worship the binding and paper, but the words are pure and I take them very seriously. And the Words tell me to worship God.
Orally until they were written down by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 14, 2009 12:16:46 GMT -5
Of course I combine and compare Scripture....that's what "rightly dividing the word of truth" means. Just curious why you think that's what "rightly dividing" means. Also, how do you know that verse applies to everyone, because wasn't it written to a Church Leader (Timothy)? Not everything in the Bible applies to all individuals. Actually, many things were written to specific people or are for specific people. peace That part doesn't seem to be "rightly divided" (the part where somethings stated in scripture are solely to Church Leaders, while others are to followers. |
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 14, 2009 19:15:50 GMT -5
No, but it's a mistake a lot of people make when they "divide" the Bible. They will read something that was written to say, Church leaders, or to a certain person, and assume it applies to every single person that reads it.
Like everytime they read the word "you" in the Bible, they think it applies to them directly.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 17, 2009 10:14:26 GMT -5
No, but it's a mistake a lot of people make when they "divide" the Bible. They will read something that was written to say, Church leaders, or to a certain person, and assume it applies to every single person that reads it. Like everytime they read the word "you" in the Bible, they think it applies to them directly. Here's the thing. The Bible says we must follow The Church. Non-Catholic Christians say that we are supposed to only follow The Bible, except the part where The Bible says that we are supposed to follow The Church.  |
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Post by alfie on Jun 22, 2009 14:10:01 GMT -5
I just say looks like because I'd have to study it through. But from the verses Joey posted....looks like it to me. Do you know what this thread is about? Proving Purgatory Em.  I just had at least one Anti-Catholic and one Non-Catholic Christian (you) say that they believe in something not based on it being spelled out in scripture, but by combining various scriptures to come to believe in something that is never said in The Bible. That goes for The Holy Trinity too. And for The Bible. If one comes to believe in that theory of AB, then they cannot deny the belief in Purgatory. Why? Because the very reasons they use to deny Purgatory can be used to deny AB. Catholics are always trying to prove that the Jews believed in purgatory but there are different Jewish sects like the Seducces and the Pharasees who don't agree with each other about death. The Judaism 101 web-site says that traditional Judaism firmly believes that death is not the end of human existence. However, because Judaism is primarily focused on life here and now rather than on the afterlife, Judaism does not have much dogma about the afterlife, and leaves a great deal of room for personal opinion. It is possible for an Orthodox Jew to believe that the souls of the righteous dead go to a place similar to the Christian heaven, or that they are reincarnated through many lifetimes, or that they simply wait until the coming of the messiah, when they will be resurrected. Likewise, Orthodox Jews can believe that the souls of the wicked are tormented by demons of their own creation, or that wicked souls are simply destroyed at death, ceasing to exist. So we need to follow what Jesus taught about the afterlife that one goes either to hell or heaven. |
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 22, 2009 14:14:41 GMT -5
Ok, that is their FINAL destination, so you are right. But the Bible does teach that many will be purged AS they enter HEAVEN.
And why take the words of Jesus literally about Heaven and Hell if you don't take the words of Jesus literally about things that we are supposed to do on earth?
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Post by Cepha on Jun 23, 2009 8:59:52 GMT -5
Do you know what this thread is about? Proving Purgatory Em. I just had at least one Anti-Catholic and one Non-Catholic Christian (you) say that they believe in something not based on it being spelled out in scripture, but by combining various scriptures to come to believe in something that is never said in The Bible. That goes for The Holy Trinity too. And for The Bible. If one comes to believe in that theory of AB, then they cannot deny the belief in Purgatory. Why? Because the very reasons they use to deny Purgatory can be used to deny AB. Catholics are always trying to prove that the Jews believed in purgatory but there are different Jewish sects like the Seducces and the Pharasees who don't agree with each other about death. The Judaism 101 web-site says that traditional Judaism firmly believes that death is not the end of human existence. However, because Judaism is primarily focused on life here and now rather than on the afterlife, Judaism does not have much dogma about the afterlife, and leaves a great deal of room for personal opinion. It is possible for an Orthodox Jew to believe that the souls of the righteous dead go to a place similar to the Christian heaven, or that they are reincarnated through many lifetimes, or that they simply wait until the coming of the messiah, when they will be resurrected. Likewise, Orthodox Jews can believe that the souls of the wicked are tormented by demons of their own creation, or that wicked souls are simply destroyed at death, ceasing to exist. So we need to follow what Jesus taught about the afterlife that one goes either to hell or heaven. What exactly "did" Jesus teach about The Afterlife? That's a very good point you brought up! Why don't we look at Jesus' references to The Afterlife! |
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