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Post by Cepha on Aug 8, 2009 12:09:37 GMT -5
Whatever happened to "freedom of speech" in this country? Why aren't The American People allowed to hear what the Health Care Plan of The President is about? Why are United States Senators and Congressmen shouted down, physically attacked, threatened and assaulted when they attempt to explain the Plan to The American People? Why don't these Radical Right Wing Extremists want The American People to hear what the plan is actually about? Where is the right for these Congressmen/Senators to speak their minds as American Citizens themselves? What is happening to this country when RWE's don't want to allow and open debate on Health Care and just jump to violence?  |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Aug 9, 2009 22:52:55 GMT -5
There are RWE out there, but from the talk around my area and out of town areas, people are not wanting this healthcare bill passed. A lot of people are worried about their loved ones that are on medicare, which the bill is supposed to cut millions from medicare to pay for other medical insurance, which would mean that alot of old folk would not have the coverage to pay for their meds that keep them living. Surely you would understand that....
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Post by alfie on Aug 10, 2009 5:52:22 GMT -5
Why are federal employees exempt from the health plan? A reporter asked Obama that question and wasn't given an answer.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Aug 10, 2009 11:41:15 GMT -5
Yeah, like that sounds fair...
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Aug 10, 2009 22:31:52 GMT -5
These people just wanted to hear what they had to say and protest! But they were not allowed because they oppose the bill. And these are people of ALL color wanting to get in...
Looks like they are being predjudice on "who" can attend the meeting and who cant....looks shady..
Hmm...military man wanting apology..
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Aug 10, 2009 22:43:44 GMT -5
I m sorry but every video i see, there are jam packed town halls of people that OPPOSE the Healthcare reform bill. Call me crazy,,but thats what i see.
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Post by Cepha on Aug 11, 2009 8:42:55 GMT -5
There are RWE out there, but from the talk around my area and out of town areas, people are not wanting this healthcare bill passed. A lot of people are worried about their loved ones that are on medicare, which the bill is supposed to cut millions from medicare to pay for other medical insurance, which would mean that alot of old folk would not have the coverage to pay for their meds that keep them living. Surely you would understand that.... Why are they worried? Because RWE's are lieing to them about the bill and these people are automatically believing the RWE's without actually reading the bill themselves. Not one of these false allegations have ever been proven. Today, on CNN, there was a debate between two brothers (blood brothers) and the moderator asked the bill opponent (a RWE) what was the proof of his allegations, was what he saying actually "in" the bill...he yelled, "NO!" and went on a rampage attacking the moderator for asking the question, for simply asking for proof of what he was saying. When his brother began to "prove" that his RWE brother was lieing, the RWE brother began to interrupt his answer, began to yell over him so that nobody could hear him talk and completely disrupted the debate. Is this an isolated incident? No, it's their "plan" in the memo an Insurance Company Lobbying firm sent out by mass email telling RWE's to disrupt the proceedings to "rattle" the Representatives. This is an attack on American Freedom! Our Representatives are not being allowed to tell the people what the bill is actually saying! And, we should cut back on Medicare Spending! It's way overbloated with waste! All President Obama wants to do is to cut back on the wasteful spending that isn't affecting care (like unneccessary paperwork, like unneccessary expenses, etc...). Who doesn't want to stop wasteful spending? The RWE's are lieing and are repeating the same attacks heard at the McCain/Palin Rallies (terrorist, socialist, marxist, Hitler, etc...). Yesterday, I heard a townhall meeting where the people were actually saying that they were "afraid" of President Obama. Can you believe that? People actually being afraid? Why? He's the elected President of The United States. The American People chose him. He won decidedly. And, he today has more support than he did when he won the election. People need to stop lieing our President and they need to stop attacking our President. I wasn't having it when they did it to George Bush. I won't have it for President Obama. |
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Post by Cepha on Aug 11, 2009 8:51:24 GMT -5
Why are federal employees exempt from the health plan? A reporter asked Obama that question and wasn't given an answer. Because Federal Employees have the best Health Care in The United States and President Obama said that if anybody likes their current plan, they don't "have" change it. The best health care plans are run by the U.S. Government (The Congress/Senate's plan, The Military's Plan, Medicaid/Medicare, etc...). |
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Post by Cepha on Aug 11, 2009 9:14:17 GMT -5
Yeah, like that sounds fair... It is fair. They get the best health care (U.S. Government Health Care). Why should they settle for less than the best? They are serving our country and deserve the best! If anything, we should ALL be able to get the same Health Care that The Congress & Senate have! But, Republicans don't want Americans to have the same health care because it would mess up profits for their croanies in the Health Care Industry. They don't want "freemarket competition" when it comes to "their" homeboys! LOL! |
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Post by Cepha on Aug 11, 2009 9:17:22 GMT -5
These people just wanted to hear what they had to say and protest! But they were not allowed because they oppose the bill. And these are people of ALL color wanting to get in... Looks like they are being predjudice on "who" can attend the meeting and who cant....looks shady.. Hmm...military man wanting apology.. No...they were not allowed because they were being rowdy and disruptive. The thing about America is that everybody is entitled to express their beliefs freely. But when you trounce on another's ability to speak, then you trounce on your own. You can't talk over people and expect your beliefs to be heard. That's why townhall meetings are being shut down, because of disruptions and violence caused by RWE's. But it doesn't matter. They will not stop the will of The American People. 50% of Americans support the President's bill and we are the majority and we WILL have our way! It's it! And that's that! ;D |
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Post by Cepha on Aug 11, 2009 9:27:50 GMT -5
I m sorry but every video i see, there are jam packed town halls of people that OPPOSE the Healthcare reform bill. Call me crazy,,but thats what i see. I don't doubt that at all. 12% of Americans don't believe that President Obama is an American. Of course there are a lot of loons in this country. Fact is, I expected to see a whole lot more. Still, no matter how many "dozens" of people fill up a small room somewhere in some county meeting facility, 50% of Americans support our President and his plan. They need to respect America and bow down to The Majority! That's the way this country operates! Everything is run by voting! And the majority has spoken! ;D What videos "don't" you see? The videos of Americans like me sitting home, relaxing peacefully knowing that President Obama is going to help us. Know why they aren't being interviewed? Becuase it makes for better "tv" to see people fighting. Fact is, only a minority of Americans oppose The President's plan. They need to suck it up and live with it. They can talk all they want to, but when it comes to violence? They need to be arrested and thrown in jail for treason! Both Lefties and Righties! |
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Post by alfie on Aug 11, 2009 16:53:57 GMT -5
There are RWE out there, but from the talk around my area and out of town areas, people are not wanting this healthcare bill passed. A lot of people are worried about their loved ones that are on medicare, which the bill is supposed to cut millions from medicare to pay for other medical insurance, which would mean that alot of old folk would not have the coverage to pay for their meds that keep them living. Surely you would understand that.... And, we should cut back on Medicare Spending! It's way overbloated with waste! All President Obama wants to do is to cut back on the wasteful spending that isn't affecting care (like unneccessary paperwork, like unneccessary expenses, etc...). Who doesn't want to stop wasteful spending? So Obama wants to cut down on paperwork does he? Yet his people came up with a thousand page health care plan that no one can understand. Good job! Obama doesn't want anyone to understand it because he wants free abortion and euthanasia otherwise he would not have written his health plan in such vague terms. Why doesn't this health plan spell out in clear terms that " NO" abortion or euthansia will be allowed? It doesn't bother Obama that he is wasting money staying at his vacation house. Wasting money for his inaugural didn't bother him either. Well Duh!!! Medicare is run by the government which it is why it is bloated. I remember taking my mom to the foot doctor for an ingrown toenail and all the doctor did was slice the side of her big toe nail and pull part of the nail out of her foot. When I got the bill (which was over $300 dollars) from medicare I called Medicare to file a fraud report but the government didn't do anything about it. You need to look at Canada. Many doctors only work part time because the government only allows so many operations per month as a result Canada is losing their doctors. The United States doesn't even have enough doctors to cover socialized health care. Then I have to ask is the government going to pay for people to attend medical school? What person is going to spend over $100,000 dollars of their own money to attend school? One of the biggest problems are lawsuits against doctors. We need tort reform to help cut costs. |
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Post by Cepha on Aug 12, 2009 11:21:37 GMT -5
So Obama wants to cut down on paperwork does he? Yet his people came up with a thousand page health care plan that no one can understand. Good job! Actually, I'd call it a GREAT job! It's the most detailed health care proposal in our nations history! ;D That's not "in" the plan. No where in his plan does it even suggest that. If it did, you'd actually "list" where it does. President Obama is a Lawyer...he knows how to "word" things so that they will become bullet proof leaving little if any means of Big Health Insurance Companies to manipulate and to cheat the system. Those days are over! Besides, it's not the President's job to "dumb down" the plan for uneducated people. That's what their Representatives are for...to tell them what the bill says. That's "if" they are allowed to speak without being shouted down by Health Care Lobbyist sponsored radicals. It does (to people who can understand it). Not everybody is intelligent enough to understand it (sad to say). But again, that is what The Representatives (Cong/Sen) are for...to explain it to the people. And, no where in the bill does it say that euph & abort will be paid for by this plan. If it's not there, it cannot be paid for. That's it. At the end of the day, it's not what Politicians say that matters nor does it matter what is "not" written. The only thing that matters is what actually "is" written.  How is he wasting money on his vacation? That's his money. He earned it by hard work. Would you deprive a man who earned an honest living his vacation time? Were you this upset when Bush (the most vacationing President ever) did this? Probably not. ;D Why does it bother you? Did you complain when other Presidents did it? Why is President Obama different when it comes to his inaguration? But I thought 83% of Americans were "happy" with it? I don't understand...now, I'm confused. People want their Medicare to stay the same and don't want to change it or lose it, but they complain about it? That makes no sense. Don't you want Obama to stop the fraud? Or not? Which is it? I'm an American, not a Canadian. The American plan is totally different than theirs. So, you're saying that Medicare has failed? That's done all the time...the gov pays for med school, then those doctors work for the gov at a far cheaper rate for a set number of years. That way, we can produce more doctors to handle all the cases you are complaining about there not being enough doctors for. Right? And, his plan does that. I don't understand Alfie, everything you complain about, Obama addresses. So what's the problem?  How can you "not" want to change the current system, yet complain about almost everything it does? |
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