Revelation 12...

[knuckle]

Hi Jacee------------

Good post,By the adoption of His sacrifice Christ reconciles the children back to Father----Sonship

much love----------------knuckle

[jacee]

Yep knuckle and is so easy but still a stone of stumbling to others.

[Cepha]

jacee said:

1Pe 2:1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
1Pe 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
1Pe 2:3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.


An example of being birthed into the kingdom....we grow up to the image of the Christ. Which means anointed one by the way. Is not His name, is His title and that is upon His body also.

We bring to the birth also.

Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
Isa 66:9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.

Zion is also the church. And church is again, the body of Jesus Christ.


Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Heb 2:10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Jesus bringing many sons to glory? How could He do that being a man? This shows that it is a spiritual birth which is genderless, not human male or female, but spirit.

The true church is to bring forth sonship. Or the image of Gods Son, within. Can only be done by a spiritual birth.

So the woman is the church.

Any belief can be created by making a potpourri of verses.
Satan did that too.

But cross reference all that to Revelations 12 like I did.

[Cepha]

jacee said:

Prophetically speaking I mean. Thought I better clarify. Mary did bring forth Jesus with the overshadowing of Holy Spirit upon her. Revelations is a prophetic book. Tells the revelation of Jesus Christ in symbolic form.

I do not pretend to understand it all, but I do understand Sonship.

What does that make the mother of The Son to those who are now the "brothers and sisters" of The Son?

(Pssst! Hint! See Revelation 12:17!)

[Cepha]

jacee said:

Yep knuckle and is so easy but still a stone of stumbling to others.

Funny, but Satan too used a reference to stones when he tried to invent beliefs that don't exist in Scripture while referencing Jesus being God's Son by combining different verses out of context together too.


Matthew 4
1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he afterward hungered.

3 And the tempter came and said unto him, If thou art the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.

4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

5 Then the devil taketh him into the holy city; and he set him on the pinnacle of the temple,

6 and saith unto him, If thou art the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and, On their hands they shall bear thee up, Lest haply thou dash thy foot against a stone.