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Post by Cepha on Apr 9, 2008 13:30:06 GMT -5
Exactly "how" wrong was it?
What does this say about those who took part in it?
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 9, 2008 13:55:31 GMT -5
Both sides where wrong!
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Post by Cepha on Apr 9, 2008 14:02:24 GMT -5
HERETIC! (LOL! Just kidding!) |
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Post by alfie on Apr 11, 2008 15:50:43 GMT -5
Exactly "how" wrong was it? What does this say about those who took part in it? They are in hell ...nuff said! |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 15:57:56 GMT -5
Exactly "how" wrong was it? What does this say about those who took part in it? They are in hell ...nuff said! Why? |
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 11, 2008 15:59:41 GMT -5
Alfie...how can you assume that?
I don't know much about the inquisition...but I'm not a fan of killing in any God/god/goddess's name.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 16:06:26 GMT -5
Alfie...how can you assume that? I don't know much about the inquisition...but I'm not a fan of killing in any God/god/goddess's name. Right, that's not a question I thought to ask. Good one M. How do you know that their alllll in hell? If Protestants believe that even Hitler could get into heaven if he repents for all his sins 1 second before he dies, then why not the Inquisitioners (or at least, why exclude them automatically from God's mercy without knowing if they had repented or not)? |
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Post by alfie on Apr 11, 2008 16:15:20 GMT -5
Alfie...how can you assume that? I don't know much about the inquisition...but I'm not a fan of killing in any God/god/goddess's name. Right, that's not a question I thought to ask. Good one M. How do you know that their alllll in hell? If Protestants believe that even Hitler could get into heaven if he repents for all his sins 1 second before he dies, then why not the Inquisitioners (or at least, why exclude them automatically from God's mercy without knowing if they had repented or not)? Maybe I should have said that 99% of them are in hell. The Bible is very plain when it says that few will make it to heaven. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 17:20:53 GMT -5
Right, that's not a question I thought to ask. Good one M. How do you know that their alllll in hell? If Protestants believe that even Hitler could get into heaven if he repents for all his sins 1 second before he dies, then why not the Inquisitioners (or at least, why exclude them automatically from God's mercy without knowing if they had repented or not)? Maybe I should have said that 99% of them are in hell. The Bible is very plain when it says that few will make it to heaven. How did you come to that figure? |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 17:23:42 GMT -5
Who knows what the facts are?
How many were murdered by The Inquisitioners?
I've heard it was between 8,000-15,000.
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 11, 2008 17:31:09 GMT -5
Alfie- We cannot judge who accepted Christ and who didn't, we were not there so we couldn't hear their professions of faith, if anyone made any. The only person to truely know that is God Himself.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 17:50:18 GMT -5
Alfie- We cannot judge who accepted Christ and who didn't, we were not there so we couldn't hear their professions of faith, if anyone made any. The only person to truely know that is God Himself. Amen. |
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Post by alfie on Apr 12, 2008 17:29:00 GMT -5
Who knows what the facts are? How many were murdered by The Inquisitioners? I've heard it was between 8,000-15,000. I think that is probably the correct number but you forget that before the Inquistion there were always some people who rejected the Catholic faith and when they did they were hunted down by your church, thrown into prison or killed otherwise there would have been millions of Prods killed during the Inqusition rather than thousands. I think about the Hugenots in France. If the Catholics hadn't persecuted them they would be the majority in France today. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 12, 2008 23:02:47 GMT -5
Who knows what the facts are? How many were murdered by The Inquisitioners? I've heard it was between 8,000-15,000. I think that is probably the correct number but you forget that before the Inquistion there were always some people who rejected the Catholic faith and when they did they were hunted down by your church, thrown into prison or killed otherwise there would have been millions of Prods killed during the Inqusition rather than thousands. I think about the Hugenots in France. If the Catholics hadn't persecuted them they would be the majority in France today. Probably? Well, I was hoping for "actually's" here. And actually the 15,000 mark was high as I dug deeper. How many Christians were murdered by The Catholic Church before The Spanish Inquisition? You brought it up...you must have a number. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 12, 2008 23:07:03 GMT -5
Oh yeah Alfie just in case you missed it, I also have The Protestant Inquisition Thread just to balance out the discussions so that The Spanish Inquisition won't be the only one here getting attention.  You being the expert on Protestantism, I hope you can help me out over there with the statistics of how many Christians The Protestants killed. Then we can compare the two and see who's more evil by the numbers! ;D (Here's the set-up, then the pitch...)  |
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Post by knuckle on May 24, 2008 5:36:17 GMT -5
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Post by Cepha on May 24, 2008 7:05:42 GMT -5
The funniest version of The Inquisition I've seen is on Mel Brooks' "History of The World" movie.
It's on YouTube under this title (I won't post it here):
"History of the World Part One - The Spanish Inquisition"
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Post by Cepha on Jun 11, 2008 21:59:04 GMT -5
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Post by teresahrc on Sept 15, 2008 12:21:09 GMT -5
Was the Inquisition approved by the pope?
teresa
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Post by doxology on Jul 8, 2009 22:19:55 GMT -5
Was the Inquisition approved by the pope? teresa Yes It was Sixtus IV for example who authoritzed the Spanish Inquisition at the request of los reyes Catolicos (the Catholic monarchs) Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castille. The patrimony of st. Peter i.e the Papal states also ran and inquisiton, and the Papal states as you probably know was under the direct governance of the Pope from the time of I believe Pepin the short of the Francs in about 800 till 1870 with the formation of the Italian nation. So yes the Pope approved of the inquisition, infact one of the views of the heresiarch Martin Luther condemned in the Papal Bull Exurge Dominie (Rise up lord) was that the burning of heretics was against the will of the holy Ghost. I am personally against relinguishing of heretics to the secular arm for execution, I think exile to be a more fitting way to preserve society from heresy. |
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