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Post by alfie on Apr 11, 2008 16:33:30 GMT -5
If I were Satan and I wanted to create a church which would be the most logical one to create the Catholic Church which appears to be all sugar and spice or a church that is divided into many different denominations? The Bible says that Satan comes as an angel of light so the obvious choice would be the Catholic Church which claims to be so perfect. Satan would want to create a church to deceive people who believe that sacraments and works will save their souls. While he was doing that he would also be working over time to infiltrate the true church (Evangelical) by weakening it through liberalism and other means in order to keep people from hearing the true salvation message. Think about it a billion people in one Catholic church who believe that following a bunch of rules and regulations will get them to heaven. Satan is a master of deception..
Just a thought!
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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 17:05:20 GMT -5
Get behind me! LOL! Wouldn't it be "most logical" for Satan to say something like this? And, which Church would Jesus start...one that reflected His wish to our Father; John 17 20 "I pray not only for them, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, 21 so that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me. Or one that would fall into chaos for building their church upon the doctrines of man (Luther, 5 Solas, etc...) which would go on to collapse? MATTHEW 7 26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. Remember, there is only one Church built upon Cephas [Armaic for rock]... Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Cephas, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it....and what does Jesus say about The Church that is built upon Cephas? Matthew 7 24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And what does Jesus say about those that "claim" to work in His name just by professing it? Matthew 7 15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. THOSE PROFESSING TO BRING A MESSAGE OTHER THAN THE CHRISTIAN MESSAGE OF THE APOSTLES. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? THROUGH THEIR FALSE TEACHINGS, THEY DIVIDED THE BODY OF CHRIST. 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. THE RESULTS (FRUITS) OF PROTESTANTISM? DIVISION AMONG THE FLOCK. A SHEPHERD DOESN'T DIVIDE THE FLOCK, HE WORKS TO KEEP IT TOGETHER. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT HOW TO JUDGE SUCH A DIVISIVE TREE? 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. THAT'S WHAT IT TELLS YOU. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. THOSE TRYING TO INTRODUCE "NEW" VERSIONS ON TRADITIONAL CHRISTIANITY. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? PROVING THAT "MIRACLES" ALONE DON'T MAKE A CHRISTIAN. SATAN CAN EXIT ONE OF HIS OWN VICTIMS TO GIVE CREDENCE TO ONE OF HIS FALSE PROPHETS. YET, IF THE PROPHET DOES A MIRACLE AND STILL CONTRADICTS CHRIST, THEN YOU KNOW HE IS FALSE. TAKE THAT PROTESTANT POLYGAMIST WHO JUST GOT CAUGHT. OR THOSE PROTESTANTS THAT WORSHIP GOD WITH SNAKES. OR THOSE PROTESTANTS THAT BELIEVE THAT ONLY WHITES ARE GOD'S CHILDREN. OR THOSE PROTESTANTS THAT BELEIVE IN GAY MARRIAGE. OR THOSE PROTESTANTS THAT HAVE FEMALE TEACHERS (RELIGIOUSLY SPEAKING). THEY ALL CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIANS (SOME, THE ONLY CHRISTIANS). 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. THEIR DAY WILL COME. PROVE YOUR ACCUSATION. PROVIDE YOUR SOURCE. THE CHURCH NEVER CLAIMED TO BE PERFECT. NOW, FOR LIEING, YOU WILL HAVE TO PROVE IT. OTHERWISE, YOU WILL BE SEEN AS A SLANDERER AND IN JESUS' EYES, A MURDERER. BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PROOF THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CLAIMS TO BE SO PERFECT. IN FACT, I'M WAITING FOR IT! ;D NO, THAT'S WHAT JESUS DID THAT (JOHN 6...READ IT). OR, HE WOULD POST JUST WHAT YOU SAID USING SOMEONE TO DO IT. THINK ABOUT IT...A GOD WHO CREATES A BIBLE WITH OVER 600+ RULES AND REGULATIONS ON HOW TO GET INTO HEAVEN KNOWN AS "THE LAW". AND HIS SON WHO SAYS UNLESS YOU DO THIS, UNLESS YOU DO THAT YOU WON'T GET INTO HEAVEN (NORMAL REASONABLE PEOPLE CALL SUCH DEMANDS "RULES AND REGULATIONS"). [/quote] I THINK EXPERIENCE IS THE BEST TEACHER.
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 11, 2008 19:17:45 GMT -5
Alfie, Satan did just that and has decieved many into her
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Post by redsoxfan on Apr 13, 2008 12:53:12 GMT -5
As opposed to all those evangelicals because some man tells them they are now saved believe instead of the bible which says we must work out our salvation in fear and trembling. Yepppppp exactly like that.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 13, 2008 13:17:13 GMT -5
Alfie, Satan did just that and has decieved many into her Yep...it's called "Protestantism" where he drew Christians away from The Church Jesus created and led them into a divisive group of churches that not only protest universal Christianity, but also protest themselves. How could Jesus be the creator of that church? Only one Christian Church is united. Only one is one.
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 13, 2008 15:49:10 GMT -5
uh...that's not what I meant, lol.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 15, 2008 6:41:57 GMT -5
I know..."Satan is a master of deception.."
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 15, 2008 15:46:38 GMT -5
Yes, yes he is.
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Post by reinabella on Apr 26, 2008 12:08:14 GMT -5
ouch why would anyone say such things? Catholics are not the "great deceiver"..
sheesh...LOL
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 26, 2008 12:14:08 GMT -5
Alfie is just a huge "anti-catholic", she says things that are from way out left field and they dont make much sense. As you can tell, she has not been on in a while, because she keeps getting shut down by cepha.
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Post by redsoxfan on Apr 27, 2008 18:32:24 GMT -5
I kind of wonder about her. What's her backround? How does one get to her conclusions?
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Post by Cepha on Apr 28, 2008 7:17:37 GMT -5
Well RSF, anyone who is "anti-Catholic" is suspect.
She's probably a non-Denom.
I'd never say that a Protestant is demonic. Never.
Again, Christian "in"clusion VS Chrisitan "ex"clusion.
The goats work against The Body of Christ while The Sheep work to remain "in" The Body of Christ.
I by no means am inferring that I am better than anyone, but I certainly know this...I love my fellow Christians. If I could love those who hurt me and who insult me and who put me down for my faith, I can certainly love a person who believes in Jesus...even if they don't act like Jesus teaches them to act.
God bless her.
She's going to get a big surprise when she get's to heaven.
If she thinks this site is tough, wait until they place her in Purgatory with me for thousands of years!
LOL!
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Post by redsoxfan on Apr 28, 2008 12:25:32 GMT -5
Like when she sees me sitting by the pool enjoying a whiskey sprite with a parasol asking her how her afterlife was going.
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 28, 2008 12:39:06 GMT -5
If she thinks this site is tough, wait until they place her in Purgatory with me for thousands of years! Who's "they"?
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Post by redsoxfan on May 1, 2008 16:53:21 GMT -5
Im not sure what you're reffering to em.
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Post by knuckle on May 1, 2008 17:10:18 GMT -5
they--- the ones in Cepha's post placing Emily in purgatory
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Post by emily445455 on May 1, 2008 20:24:31 GMT -5
I was placed in purgatory? LOL, by whom?
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Post by redsoxfan on May 2, 2008 9:35:18 GMT -5
I thought he was just referring to Alfie. I can't picture em getting placed in purgatory next to Cepha. It's too much like a greek version of hell for her.
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Post by knuckle on May 2, 2008 10:21:34 GMT -5
I mis spoke it was Alfie not Em.Forgive me ladies,knuckle often calls his children by the wrong name too.Must be getting a bit senile
much love--------------knuckle
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Post by emily445455 on May 2, 2008 11:38:06 GMT -5
I thought he was just referring to Alfie. I can't picture em getting placed in purgatory next to Cepha. It's too much like a greek version of hell for her. ??
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