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Post by Cepha on Apr 17, 2008 9:38:26 GMT -5
Do you have a Spiritual Gift?
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Post by Cepha on Apr 17, 2008 9:45:12 GMT -5
Me?
I've been told by several religious leaders (Muslim, Catholic, Protestant, etc...) that I have a gift for scripture.
I see things there that most people don't normally see.
For example, when God created Adam & Eve, I asked how did God create them? As infants? As toddlers? As teenagers? As young adults? Middleaged? Senior citizens?
Why? Becuase as I heard the passage being read about them, their not knowing shame and being naked reminded me of my two little girls when I'd give them baths when they were toddlers. They had to be taught shame or to cover their bodies. Not that nakedness was bad, but that it was not for the world to see.
I see things in scripture (like Jesus turning the water to wine being His ministry's beginning more than it was about a magic trick...water symbolized spirit in Jewish tradition and wine blood or flesh, the carnal...at this moment, The Holy Spirit did it's first work in Jesus The Man's body to begin to reveal Him as The Son of God to the world and thus, begin His work).
I also have been gifted with the ability of communication. I can speak well and express myself well.
This can be used to work against me in that I have the ability to convince people of things in how I say them so I work to watch what I say...I dont' want to lead anybody into believing something that isn't true.
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 17, 2008 10:55:18 GMT -5
Not that I know of.
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Post by alfie on Apr 17, 2008 17:21:17 GMT -5
Me? I've been told by several religious leaders (Muslim, Catholic, Protestant, etc...) that I have a gift for scripture. I see things there that most people don't normally see. For example, when God created Adam & Eve, I asked how did God create them? As infants? As toddlers? As teenagers? As young adults? Middleaged? Senior citizens? Why? Becuase as I heard the passage being read about them, their not knowing shame and being naked reminded me of my two little girls when I'd give them baths when they were toddlers. They had to be taught shame or to cover their bodies. Not that nakedness was bad, but that it was not for the world to see. I see things in scripture (like Jesus turning the water to wine being His ministry's beginning more than it was about a magic trick...water symbolized spirit in Jewish tradition and wine blood or flesh, the carnal...at this moment, The Holy Spirit did it's first work in Jesus The Man's body to begin to reveal Him as The Son of God to the world and thus, begin His work). I also have been gifted with the ability of communication. I can speak well and express myself well. This can be used to work against me in that I have the ability to convince people of things in how I say them so I work to watch what I say...I dont' want to lead anybody into believing something that isn't true. God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply so that should have given you an inkling. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 17, 2008 20:36:29 GMT -5
Great point!
But how long after He created them did He command them to do this? The same day?
That would man that Eve could've been as young as 8 years old (technically, the youngest age that a female becomes capable of bearing children), though the average today is 12.
Would that mean that God approves of a pre-teen having children?
How long after that day did Eve give birth to Cain?
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 17, 2008 20:41:54 GMT -5
Must not be that important if God didn't include it in His Word  |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 17, 2008 21:23:01 GMT -5
Must not be that important if God didn't include it in His Word God didn't leave "The Trinity" in His word...would you say that it's not that important either? |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 17, 2008 21:37:18 GMT -5
Must not be that important if God didn't include it in His Word On top of that, not all that Jesus said is included in The Bible...are those things that Jesus said not important either just because God left them out of His Word? John 21:25 "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen." |
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 18, 2008 7:54:45 GMT -5
I guess what I meant was it's not important for us to know since it's not in the Bible.
Also, the trinity is in the Bible, just not under the term we use for it.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 18, 2008 17:16:15 GMT -5
The Bible is not in The Bible. Is "it" not important for us to know? You mean that it doesn't exist as a "Doctrine", right? (Pssst! Where did The Doctrine of The Trinity first originate?  ) |
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Post by jacee on Apr 20, 2008 22:07:37 GMT -5
Back to spiritual gifts. Just wondering if you are speaking of the gifts that the New Testament say are spiritual gifts?  |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 20, 2008 22:41:54 GMT -5
Good question. I never thought about that. My gift isn't in The Holy Bible. I meant personally any gift that's God related. |
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Post by jacee on Apr 21, 2008 11:56:16 GMT -5
Would those gifts then be spiritual gifts? Am thinking you are speaking of talents....or God given abilities in our natural man, is that so?
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Post by jacee on Apr 21, 2008 11:58:51 GMT -5
If we are not "speaking the language" of scripture, would that not be confusing? Am wondering why Protesants do that, yet Catholics do not??
That is why I do word studies. If we don't understand what is said, we can form all kinds of conclusions that are of our own mind, and not necessarily Gods.
Would that not be so?
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Post by redsoxfan on Apr 21, 2008 21:20:24 GMT -5
heya jacee,
perhaps you could answer this. I asked it somewhere else but Ill ask here as well. Do you believe in the Nicene Creed? Not sure if you would or not. Then my question moves to charismatic catholics and if the baptism of the holy spirit would somehow violate the Nicene Creed or not.
I also believe that one of my gifts if Faith. I would never leave the faith nor vice versa.
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Post by jacee on Apr 22, 2008 11:07:48 GMT -5
Hi Red Sox
I do not know what the Nicene Creed is. And to my understanding as one who has received the baptism of HolySpirit, same as the charasmatic catholics, the gift of faith is an unusual faith. Would be one for miracles.
There is the seed of faith that God gives to all who are His.
Am attending the meetings in Lakeland which means I only a bit of time in the am and in the evening to post. Could you post the Nicene Creed?
And leaving the faith....would that not be more that He will never leave us? If we are left to our own devices, we are capable of doing anything. Thinking of the book now Practicing the Presence of God. I think that was written by a catholic monk. Was a long time ago that I read it. The author said that he trusted the Lord so much for His keeping power, that if he strayed it would be Gods fault.
I love that. Hope I am quoting correctly here....was over 30 years since I've read it am sure.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 22, 2008 11:15:19 GMT -5
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, light from light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary
and became truly human.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father [and the Son],
who with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Now i am just wondering why our baptism would be wrong? Everyone is baptised in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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Post by redsoxfan on Apr 22, 2008 15:05:53 GMT -5
that's what I was wondering about cc27.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 22, 2008 15:57:46 GMT -5
who said our baptism was wrong and why?
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 22, 2008 20:04:22 GMT -5
I'm not sure who this was directed to...but I don't beleive in infant baptism.
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