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Post by Cepha on May 14, 2008 9:10:58 GMT -5
Oh my gosh!
There are so many!
Where do I begin?
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Post by Cepha on May 14, 2008 9:17:40 GMT -5
Mel Gibson was NOT a Catholic!
Water doesn't mean water in scripture when used in conjunction with a word that literally means immersed in water (baptizo).
Jesus wasn't a Priest.
The Bible didn't exist until the 16th Century.
There were no Christians for the first 1,600 years after Jesus was ressurected.
Catholic doesn't mean universal.
The Bible (the book) is perfect.
Jesus came to abolish The Law.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 14, 2008 10:07:53 GMT -5
Catholics arnt Christian!
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Post by alfie on Jun 7, 2008 9:47:29 GMT -5
Catholics arnt Christian! Catholics are saved! Catholics are born again Christians. I never heard either one of these terms used by Catholics until maybe the last fifteen years and that is because Catholics are trying to deceive Evengelicals into thinking the terms mean the same thing for Catholics as for Evengelicals. |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 7, 2008 13:36:38 GMT -5
The phrase "born again" is not a biblical phrase.
In other words, it's not "in" The Word of God.
So you criticize Catholics for not calling theselves something that doesn't even exist in The Holy Bible or that Jesus Himself never said.
Of course, if you can find that phrase in The Word of God, I welcome your evidence.
[insert evidence here]
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Post by Cepha on Jun 7, 2008 13:40:06 GMT -5
Catholics arnt Christian! Catholics are saved! Catholics are born again Christians. I never heard either one of these terms used by Catholics until maybe the last fifteen years and that is because Catholics are trying to deceive Evengelicals into thinking the terms mean the same thing for Catholics as for Evengelicals. By the way Sexy, it was The Catholic Church that revealed the Dotrine of Salvation to The World. We were talking about being "saved" way before any Christian sects or cults existed.  |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 7, 2008 20:31:52 GMT -5
Ouch!  |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 7, 2008 21:39:27 GMT -5
Ouch!  |
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Post by Cepha on Aug 4, 2008 13:56:59 GMT -5
The phrase "born again" is not a biblical phrase. In other words, it's not "in" The Word of God. So you criticize Catholics for not calling theselves something that doesn't even exist in The Holy Bible or that Jesus Himself never said. Of course, if you can find that phrase in The Word of God, I welcome your evidence. [ insert evidence here] This ranks up there with one of the craziest things I have heard a ''professing christian'' say. John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he can not see the Kingdom of God.Words of Christ in bold. Yeah, I admit it. That was a set up and a half. What does one have to do to be "born again"? |
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Post by teresahrc on Aug 4, 2008 14:07:58 GMT -5
Water and the Spirit (Believe and be baptized)
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Post by Cepha on Aug 4, 2008 14:10:27 GMT -5
Water and the Spirit (Believe and be baptized) Something else Teresa...think: Unless you do this, you will not enter The Kingdom of Heaven either. It's not just ritual baptism or faith alone.  |
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Post by teresahrc on Aug 4, 2008 14:11:59 GMT -5
Become like a child
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Post by teresahrc on Aug 4, 2008 14:12:53 GMT -5
Have righteousness that surpasses that of the Pharisees and teachers of the Law (Matthew 5)
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Post by Cepha on Aug 4, 2008 14:33:43 GMT -5
Outstanding! Keep them coming! Keep proving me right!
But, what is the most important thing to a Catholic?
What is it that separates us from Denominational Christianity?
Piensa!
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Post by Cepha on Aug 4, 2008 14:57:42 GMT -5
Outstanding! Keep them coming! Keep proving me right! But, what is the most important thing to a Catholic? I don't think Jesus taught us that we had to be a member of a man made religion to be born again. Nobody ever said that. ;D |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Aug 9, 2008 15:44:18 GMT -5
its sounds redicules to me as well. I think the document that he is showing is that in the CCC, it shows where we Catholics believe that Christians from other denominations can also reach heavan, not just Catholics.
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Post by Cepha on Aug 9, 2008 15:46:29 GMT -5
Don't forget the Muslims and Jews too...
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Post by Cepha on Aug 9, 2008 15:48:24 GMT -5
The Church and non-Christians
839 "Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to the People of God in various ways." [LG 16] [856]
The relationship of the Church with the Jewish People. When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People, [Cf. NA 4] "the first to hear the Word of God." [Roman Missal, Good Friday 13: General Intercessions, VI] The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God's revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews "belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ", [Rom 9:4-5] "for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable." [Rom 11:29] [63, 147]
840 And when one considers the future, God's People of the Old Covenant and the new People of God tend towards similar goals: expectation of the coming (or the return) of the Messiah. But one awaits the return of the Messiah who died and rose from the dead and is recognized as Lord and Son of God; the other awaits the coming of a Messiah, whose features remain hidden till the end of time; and the latter waiting is accompanied by the drama of not knowing or of misunderstanding Christ Jesus. [674, 597]
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day." [LG 16; cf. NA 3]
842 The Church's bond with non-Christian religions is in the first place the common origin and end of the human race: [360]
All nations form but one community. This is so because all stem from the one stock which God created to people the entire earth, and also because all share a common destiny, namely God. His providence, evident goodness, and saving designs extend to all against the day when the elect are gathered together in the holy city... [NA 1]
843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life." [LG 16; cf. NA 2; EN 53] [28, 856]
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Post by Cepha on Aug 9, 2008 15:51:29 GMT -5
If one is a Catholic, they must believe that salvation is available for all mankind for that is why Jesus died. For all mankind. The gift is not ours to distribute, but Christ's and it's already been given.
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Post by Cepha on Aug 9, 2008 17:42:24 GMT -5
If one is a Catholic, they must believe that salvation is available for all mankind for that is why Jesus died. For all mankind. The gift is not ours to distribute, but Christ's and it's already been given. There is no question that salvation is offered to all men, but the only way to receive this salvation is through the Lord and our savior Jesus Christ. Then what you're saying is that salvation is "not" a gift, but is conditional. It must be bartered for. One must provide something in order to receive it. A "trade". |
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