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Post by Cepha on Sept 27, 2008 9:29:57 GMT -5
Ok, Pastors (Cath/Prot alike) can be loony.
No doubt about it.
But I am angry that videos of Sarah Palin would be shown while she worshipped!
Her being prayed over by the witch fighter is completely wrong.
That is a private moment of hers and we should'nt be seeing that.
I think that whoever exposed that was wrong to do so.
Her privacy in that respect should be respected.
I in no way agree with her policy-wise (except for her outstanding positions on abortion), but it turned my stomach to see the media showing video of her during worship.
God bless her.
My 2 pennies.
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Post by redsoxfan on Oct 2, 2008 23:39:13 GMT -5
Aha!!! I knew it. You have a crush on her!!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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Post by teresahrc on Oct 4, 2008 8:01:54 GMT -5
I think we should vote for a candidate based on their works, not their faith.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Oct 5, 2008 23:09:46 GMT -5
maybe we should compare each elects their works. Who exactly has done more?
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Post by teresahrc on Oct 6, 2008 13:04:50 GMT -5
I don't know if "done more" is the criteria I was thinking about. I'm not necessarily even thinking about this election, but in general.
In this election, obviously McCain has "done more" because he's old. I don't really know that much about him though or what he has done.
Why do Christians, esp. evangelicals want to put only "born again" or people who are more outspoken with their faith in office? History has shown that power often corrupts people. Why would we want to put a really good person in a position that is likely to corrupt them?
My advice, if you love Palin or a candidate because of their Christian faith and high moral values, then don't vote for them so they won't be corrupted.
On the other hand......
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Post by knuckle on Oct 6, 2008 14:37:12 GMT -5
Hi T---------------
I think it is not so much about being MORE out spoken as being MORALLY out spoken
I voted Huckabee in the primaries because in my party he is the most in line with my christian values but will vote Obama in Nov. because he is the better man for the job in my political view
as for the Palin video,I would have thought that it would have set better with Catholics than for main stream protestants.The idea of combating evil as an entity doesn't set well with a lot of denominations.I for one found no fault with what the video showed but the youtubers (most of them that commented) are ignorant to the fact that Satan is real,demons are real and that they oppress the church and possess the world.I give the CC a lot of credit in this area because they know that the adversary is more than an evil thought in the minds of men.
much love------------------knuckle
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Post by alfie on Oct 6, 2008 23:58:11 GMT -5
I don't know if "done more" is the criteria I was thinking about. I'm not necessarily even thinking about this election, but in general. In this election, obviously McCain has "done more" because he's old. I don't really know that much about him though or what he has done. Why do Christians, esp. evangelicals want to put only "born again" or people who are more outspoken with their faith in office? History has shown that power often corrupts people. Why would we want to put a really good person in a position that is likely to corrupt them? My advice, if you love Palin or a candidate because of their Christian faith and high moral values, then don't vote for them so they won't be corrupted. On the other hand...... If you read the Old Testament God would protect and bless Israel if they had a godly king even if the people were living evil lives. |
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Post by Cepha on Oct 7, 2008 8:29:29 GMT -5
Aha!!! I knew it. You have a crush on her!!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!  |
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Post by Cepha on Oct 7, 2008 8:41:31 GMT -5
I think we should vote for a candidate based on their works, not their faith. Words and actual deeds.  Personally, I think Romney would've put McCain over the top, but he comes from a known Anti-Mormon background. Plus, he feared the Evangelicals revolt. But there's one thing for sure. Racism will always truimph over religious biggotery anyday. He would've won with Romney (and I actually like Romney a lot). My favorite though was Huckabee. |
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Post by Cepha on Oct 7, 2008 8:43:04 GMT -5
maybe we should compare each elects their works. Who exactly has done more? Exactly CC! We should compare their records! We should see if what they say matches up with what they've already done and/or "not" done. |
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Post by Cepha on Oct 7, 2008 8:46:19 GMT -5
I don't know if "done more" is the criteria I was thinking about. I'm not necessarily even thinking about this election, but in general. In this election, obviously McCain has "done more" because he's old. I don't really know that much about him though or what he has done. Why do Christians, esp. evangelicals want to put only "born again" or people who are more outspoken with their faith in office? History has shown that power often corrupts people. Why would we want to put a really good person in a position that is likely to corrupt them? My advice, if you love Palin or a candidate because of their Christian faith and high moral values, then don't vote for them so they won't be corrupted. On the other hand...... Actually, despite McCain's having been "in" office for a quarter of a century, he has a weak record. Obama has done more than him in less time and it's been substantive work. McCain is known for his hypocrisy. He cries about "pork" and that he wouldn't ever vote for or allow a bill with pork in it, but he just voted for the most recent bill "after" it was filled with pork. And...he's voted "against" most Vet Bills.  McCainnanites...Open up your eyes. He's doing it right in front of you. Obama has an excellent record. |
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Post by Cepha on Oct 7, 2008 8:52:31 GMT -5
Hi T--------------- I think it is not so much about being MORE out spoken as being MORALLY out spoken I voted Huckabee in the primaries because in my party he is the most in line with my christian values but will vote Obama in Nov. because he is the better man for the job in my political view as for the Palin video,I would have thought that it would have set better with Catholics than for main stream protestants.The idea of combating evil as an entity doesn't set well with a lot of denominations.I for one found no fault with what the video showed but the youtubers (most of them that commented) are ignorant to the fact that Satan is real,demons are real and that they oppress the church and possess the world.I give the CC a lot of credit in this area because they know that the adversary is more than an evil thought in the minds of men. much love------------------knuckle Knucks! What's up brother! I agree with you. Huckabee was my man too. I would've felt much better had the Republicans chosen him. I honestly believe that Huckabee would've been the best candidate for our country morally. Generally speaking, I believe Obama is the best candidate. Experience-wise, no one beats Hillary Clinton. I hope Obama gives her the 2nd most powerful position in the government: Secretary of State (yes...it is even more powerful than VP). I believe that Obama (as has been proven in his record already) will definitely have Republicans in his Cabinet. He has a record of working with Republicans. I'd love to see good Republicans in The White House and bad Democrats out of it. But he has to win it first. While it looks good for him now in polls and on paper and ideally, let's not forget, this is the same country that put George Bush "back" in office after it was proven that he lied to us. So, despite all of his faults and proven inability to lead (especially as seen with this most recent issue of the Bailout Bill), McCain could still very well be elected. And that scares me more than an Al Quaeda attack. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Oct 11, 2008 0:31:29 GMT -5
I wish thomson was running, he was the best down to earth guy, no bull crap with him. He would have made the debates interesting. Owell, maybe next time!
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Post by teresahrc on Oct 11, 2008 8:53:13 GMT -5
Personally I liked Ron Paul. He was kind of leaning towards Libertarian, but I agreed with him on non-economic issues. He was against the war in Iraq and pro-life. It seemed like he was against all forms of murder. Wow, what a novel idea!
teresa
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Post by Cepha on Oct 11, 2008 9:53:38 GMT -5
Well, it's official:
Palin is another Hypocrite.
She abused her power as Governor illegally.
So much for the "who's the real Obama" speeches.
Who's the "real" Palin?
Now we know.
And John McCain is returning to the man he once was.
He defended Obama by the fanatical racist Republican fundamentalists who were insisting that Obama was a Muslim or an Arab (as if there's something wrong with that).
I believe that McCain is preparing to bow out gracefully. I'm not saying he's going to quit, but there's just too much going against him and too much in Senator Obama's favor. I think that he is going to ease up and the two are going to coast for the rest of the campaign.
He really impressed me yesterday...that's the McCain that I came to know and love and respect. The one that showed up yesterday and defended Obama against all of the lies of the Republicans and their Zealots.
I still find it hard to believe that Obama will win, but I remain hopeful that this country has become moral and ethical enough that his race will not play a part in their votes.
Why do I say this? Because in a CNN poll of undecided voters (mostly non-minority voters), they were asked who they felt won the debates and who they felt was more qualified to become President.
They overwhelmingly said "Obama".
When asked who they were going to vote for?
They said McCain.
That says a lot.
That racism truimphs common sense among racists.
They'd rather have the lesser qualified candidate than the best candidate because of his race (a perfect justification for preferrential treatment in hiring and why "quotas" were started in the first place).
We should pick the best man for the job and Obama has proven to be the best man. He just happens to be biracial.
God bless him or McCain when the time comes.
I in my heart don't see it happening, but if it does, if Obama becomes President, the racists in this country are going to riot like the African Americans did in the Rodney King trial verdict.
We will experience a birthing pain of a new era...of America fullfilling her promises of equality. And this will be a proud new place for our beloved country and the world will once again see us as the leader of civilization.
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Post by redsoxfan on Oct 15, 2008 12:45:14 GMT -5
I wish thomson was running, he was the best down to earth guy, no bull crap with him. He would have made the debates interesting. Owell, maybe next time! He was my favorite too. Perhaps he'll get teh Secretary of State Job when John McCain makes Obama cry "uncle" like a little girl on Novermber 4th!  |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Oct 15, 2008 17:08:18 GMT -5
lol! I think me and you are the only logical, unblinded catholics on the board. hehe
I hope McCain calls Obama out tonight!
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Post by Cepha on Oct 21, 2008 12:55:19 GMT -5
lol! I think me and you are the only logical, unblinded catholics on the board. hehe I hope McCain calls Obama out tonight! He tried his best, but got owned none the less. ;D McCain will probably win the election because there are simply far too many racist still in this country and they'd prefer to have their children starving while rich folks continue to get tax breaks and poor folks continue to bail out Wall Street crooks, but it was nice that Obama came close. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Oct 21, 2008 13:15:56 GMT -5
Your allready counting your man out.... i think he has it in the bag, but i hope not.
Why does it have to be about race? I thought this election was not about that?....
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Post by Cepha on Oct 21, 2008 13:30:02 GMT -5
Your allready counting your man out.... i think he has it in the bag, but i hope not. Why does it have to be about race? I thought this election was not about that?.... Yep I'm counting him out...it's called "The Bradley Effect". Google it. I highly doubt that despite the poll #'s, this country will allow for a black man to become President. There are already assasins ready to take him out by White Segregationalists (KKK, Aryan Nation, etc...). They've already been caught training for an assasination attempt on Obama. And it's no small minority of the population either. Supposedly a full 25% of Democrats say they won't vote for him because he's black...they'd rather vote for McCain even if they disagree with him on basically every policy which is proof that racism is plain stupid. One has to be a complete moron to be a racist. Sweetie, when they do a poll of Whites and almost all the participants say that Obama is not only more qualified and better equipped to become President than McCain and they still won't vote for him, that's racism. This election isn't supposed to be about race, but it's the Republican radicals who are injecting it into the discussion now saying that General Colin Powell, a man with an impeccable record, a devout Republican for decades is only voting for Obama because he's black and that it's racial. Sorry, but it just is. I'm not saying that to vote against Obama is racist, but when a non-black person refuses to vote for him because he's black, then sweetie, that's racism. It just is. |
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