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Post by watchman on Mar 10, 2009 22:42:51 GMT -5
Ok, sorry, I didn't know "premillenialism" was different from "millenialism". The difference is not in millennialism and premillennialism. All premillennialist are millennialist. Let me explain a Millennialist is some one who believes in the Millennium and a premillennialist believes that the return of Christ will come before the millennium starts. Both modern day millennialist/ despensationalist, and original millennialist/ Historical premillennialist believe in the premillennial return of Christ as well as a literal Millennial reign of Christ, that is were the similarities stops. Dispensationalist believe that the rapture is before the Millennium and that the Church and Israel are 2 separate entities with 2 separate salvation plans. While Historical premillennialist do not believe in the pretrib rapture or the separation of the Church and Israel. There are many more differences between the 2 groups but those are the main contentions between them. |
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Post by teresahrc on Mar 13, 2009 14:08:06 GMT -5
I couldn't let that be the last word.
The Catholic Church doesn't just try to figure out what the early church believed, like archeologists digging up the past. There is no need to because we have a living connection to the Apostles, through Apostolic Sucession. The truth has been passed down, "by word of mouth" and by "letter".
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Post by Cepha on Mar 13, 2009 15:42:18 GMT -5
I couldn't let that be the last word. The Catholic Church doesn't just try to figure out what the early church believed, like archeologists digging up the past. There is no need to because we have a living connection to the Apostles, through Apostolic Sucession. The truth has been passed down, "by word of mouth" and by "letter". Amen to that. To be an Anti-Catholic, one would have to completely abandon history and ignore "where" the Bible came from. Their history would have to begin in the 16th Century. Jesus didn't die in the 16th Century. The Apostles didn't evangelize the world in the 16th Century. |
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Post by ezekiel33 on Mar 30, 2009 21:05:50 GMT -5
I couldn't let that be the last word. The Catholic Church doesn't just try to figure out what the early church believed, like archeologists digging up the past. There is no need to because we have a living connection to the Apostles, through Apostolic Sucession. The truth has been passed down, "by word of mouth" and by "letter". Amen to that. To be an Anti-Catholic, one would have to completely abandon history and ignore "where" the Bible came from. Their history would have to begin in the 16th Century. Jesus didn't die in the 16th Century. The Apostles didn't evangelize the world in the 16th Century. What do you mean by ''anti catholic''. Being non catholic does not mean that you have rejected the teaching of the Apostles. Just the false teachings that sprung up after the apostle were dead and catholicism had taken over. |
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Post by teresahrc on Apr 6, 2009 14:49:58 GMT -5
The Apostles aren't dead, first of all. They are "asleep" but yet alive in Christ.
Second, the Apostles handed down the teachings that Jesus gave them, by word of mouth and letter. They also had authority that has been passed down sucessively.
To think that Jesus wasn't able to keep the Church from corruption is perhaps the greatest anti-catholic statement of all.
What "false teachings"? Vague accusations against the Catholic Church won't cut it here. But if you want to debate, you need specifics.
peace
teresa
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Post by ezekiel33 on Apr 6, 2009 20:22:20 GMT -5
The Apostles aren't dead, first of all. They are "asleep" but yet alive in Christ. Second, the Apostles handed down the teachings that Jesus gave them, by word of mouth and letter. They also had authority that has been passed down sucessively. To think that Jesus wasn't able to keep the Church from corruption is perhaps the greatest anti-catholic statement of all. What "false teachings"? Vague accusations against the Catholic Church won't cut it here. But if you want to debate, you need specifics. peace teresa And then you get banned right, yeah I know the drill. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 6, 2009 20:46:39 GMT -5
The Apostles aren't dead, first of all. They are "asleep" but yet alive in Christ. Second, the Apostles handed down the teachings that Jesus gave them, by word of mouth and letter. They also had authority that has been passed down sucessively. To think that Jesus wasn't able to keep the Church from corruption is perhaps the greatest anti-catholic statement of all. What "false teachings"? Vague accusations against the Catholic Church won't cut it here. But if you want to debate, you need specifics. peace teresa And then you get banned right, yeah I know the drill. Nobody here has ever gotten banned for debating. Only for being insulting or for flaming. That's the only rule. You two could enter the debate forum where you can present your case for your allegations and you two can have a structured debate moderated by someoene else with rules that you both agree to before you do enter. What do you say? Ready to battle Teresa? I'll moderate. |
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Post by teresahrc on Apr 7, 2009 14:43:42 GMT -5
ezekiel 33, you wont get banned for disagreeing! People that get banned here have called us names like "stupid, satanic," etc.
You won't get banned for your beliefs (Christian, Muslim, Mormon, whatever) only for being rude, mean or name calling.
What do you want to debate?
teresa
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