Post by mrstain on Jun 18, 2009 19:02:19 GMT -5
Well, the difference is the source of the quote.
Byrd was a notorious racist at one time in his life.
He's repented of that and now made a beautiful statement that detracts from the ugliness of the word when used towards Blacks.
Yes, repentance and conversion is a beautiful thing. Good on Senatory Byrd for admitting that he made many mistakes in the days lwhen he was eading the KKK in persecutions of African Americans and CATHOLICS.
You probably can't see it because you're not a person of color (I'm just guessing here).
I must say I do find it odd that you would presume I could not understand something because I may not be a person of color -- however you define that. Are you in fact stating that the color of a person's skin means they may not have the mental capacity to understand a given concept? Cepha, that's not what I would call being colorblind as I believe we should be as children of God.
It seems to me, -- I'm new here so please forgive me if I'm misreading your words -- that you are also applying a double-standard here based on the color of a person's skin. A perfect example is when you wrote this earlier: "I don't understand how that is racist when applied to a white person. It's only racist when it's applied to a black person." Shouldn't we look deeper than the color of one's epidermis?
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King Jr.
I see exactly what he was saying and it's true.
There is nothing wrong with using the word nigger to downgrade it (which is exactly what he did). I don't see why any reasonable person would have a problem with this word and the context in which it was used here.
The word itself is offensive when used in a racial sense (when used in a nuetral sense, as in "an ignorant person" it's no where near as offensive).
I think most -- yes, even Republicans -- reasonable people share that sentiment with you.
And don't forget which is the Party that today screams "kill him" at their rallies during the Presidential race with regards to our now current President.
And don't forget which party had the racist posters at their rallies.
And don't forget which party is 93% "non-minority".
And don't forget which party cuts programs that benefits persons who happen to be minorities.
Exactly! And that is what gives his words so much more power in a positive sense!
Don't forget which party throws oreo cookie's at Michael Steele.
Don't forget which party incessently calls Clarence Thomas (a CATHOLIC and the only African American on the court) "uncle Tom" and makes ridiculous attempts to disparage him.
Don't forget which party ACTUALLY WHOLEHEARTEDLY supports the killing of innocent humans -- I think about 4,000 a day (disproportionate amount of minorities)-- according to their own party platform
Ok. I'll stop there. I know in these types of discussions we tend to pull out the oddball instances to make our point as we've done so artfully here. Well, the baby murdering part is not an oddball occurrence in the Democrat philosophy. It is a party platform after all. We both know that the Republican party platform does not contain any of the above, but as I've said earlier -- there are always going to be kooks in every crowd. It is like the Church. We are always going to have tares among the wheat, but the Body of Christ is still about purity & holiness.
Anyway, it is an historical fact that the GOP is the party of Abraham Lincoln. In case you think the GOP somehow is different in more modern times I should also remind you that a greater percentage of Republicans in Congress voted for the Civil Rights act than did the Democrats. I should also mention that Martin Luther King, according to his niece, was a Republican as well.
"My grandfather, Dr. Martin Luther King, Sr.,vor ‘Daddy King’, was a Republican and father of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. who was a Republican.” - Dr. Alveda C. King, niece of Dr. Martin Luther King
It's a fact, most white racists are Republicans.
LOL... That sounds a lot like those ludicrous statements we often here from some of the wacky protestant fundies (not the good ones). You know, "It is a fact. Most Catholics are Mary worshippers." I'm sure your facts here are about as solid as theirs.
I've also posted on the racist democrats here too during the election. You just happen to be coming upon the Republican's racism because right now, at this current events issue, they are the ones who are sending out racist emails from political offices.
Thanks, Cepha! That's why I'm trying not to jump to conclusions. We should call out evil no matter where we see it. You're not going to find me defending racists anywhere.
Question: How many Democratic racists have you come across in a country that is mostly non-minority?
Compare that to the onslaught of racist events that are taking place now.?
Not sure of the exact number. I've met a pretty diverse group of people in my life and I can say that I've met racists on both side of the political spectrum. I hope this does not offend anyone, but I have to say the worst offenders I've met are from the Northeastern section of the country which is typically Democrat country.
Facts are facts.
Opinions are not facts.
The overwhelming majority of racists in this country affiliate themselves with The Republican Party. That is undeniable.
Unless you know the overwhelming majority of racists in this country that is again just your opinion. Not fact and thus it can be easily challenged and denied.
The overwhelming majority of racial crimes against minorities are done by Conservative Republicans.
Ok. Would you be so kind to show me the fbi crime statistics that show the "overwhelming majority of racial crimes against minorities are done by Conservative Republicans"? Surely this will be easy for you to produce.
The number of race related attacks against minorities have exploded since President Obama was sworn in.
It is what it is.
Stat's please?
Well, that's an insult to good decent folk like myself.
I meant no offense. I was specifically referring to the "misguided left" who stereotype all Republicans as racist wingnuts, support abortion, treat minorities as incapable humans, etc.
I left the Republican Party because of all their homosexual escapades in Washington. They claim to be the party of morals and family values and had an unprecedented amount of sexual scandals involving prostitutes, pedophilia and corruption.
Yes, Republicans claim to be the party of morals. Sure, hypocrites drive us nuts, but the fact is they are hypocrites opposed to their own party. Again, it's like the Church. I will not leave the Church because of a few bad apples. I will instead cling to the Church and help proclaim its message of Truth over the cackles and jeers of the enemy.
Plus, they were the ones who legalized abortion in the early 70's.
May I ask what specific "they" you are talking about?
I in now way associate with anybody (either Republican or Democrat or Liberal) who supports abortion and point out their faults if asked (even The President's).
I knew I liked you!
Just because a person is against racism, you shouldn't lump them into the same category as the Left Wing Extremists.
You just did what you seem to be complaining about (lumping people up in one group) where I literally separated the Extremists from the decent Republicans with the very title of this thread...Right Wing EXTREMISTS!
My apologies. Lumping is bad!!
If you don't fit that bill, then there's no reason for you to defend them.
I was not defending the kooks. I'm defending Republican Americans. This is a Republic we live in after all.
They are unfortunately the voice of Republicans now since I don't see many Republicans denouncing these acts (maybe for fear of losing even more members to The Independant Party?).
--pulling hair out-- That is just silly! These wingnuts are not the voice of the Republican party.
Let's face it...the Right Wing Extremists are racists.
And most racists are Right Wing Extremists.
That is an undeniable fact.
I am curious how you would define Right Wing Extremist. Would you mind expounding a bit?
