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Post by Cepha on Jun 29, 2009 9:54:28 GMT -5
Alfie said: Alfie said: Alfie, who "exterminates" babies through abortion? A political party, or the Mother? Who was blaming racism? It's like you are arguing with yourself here. Again, what was the political party of The Supreme Court and the Racist President when abortion was LEGALIZED in America?  |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 29, 2009 10:02:21 GMT -5
Im sorry, but who was the president when it was legalised?
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Post by Cepha on Jun 29, 2009 10:12:32 GMT -5
Im sorry, but who was the president when it was legalised? Richard Nixon (Republican). And he said it was "neccessary" when African Americans and European Americans had a child. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 29, 2009 10:26:41 GMT -5
You do know that there is a much bigger risk when a black and a white have a baby(health wise). Sometimes they make beautiful babies, but alot of times problems occur.  |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 29, 2009 10:34:48 GMT -5
Marcie, like what?
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Post by Cepha on Jun 29, 2009 10:36:08 GMT -5
You do know that there is a much bigger risk when a black and a white have a baby(health wise). Sometimes they make beautiful babies, but alot of times problems occur. OMGosh! You are as backwards as Alfie is backwards on theology! Actually, races become stronger when they mix and become weaker when they interbreed too much!  You seriously need to do a google search! LOL! You drastically INCREASE your genetic pool by having children with another race! Which is BETTER! |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 29, 2009 12:17:33 GMT -5
Well, i know that my sisters friend has had 2 failed pregnancies with a black man, and her third pregnancy was successful, but the baby has a whole in the heart. I dunno, im thinking its the bi-racial genetics. Im not against it! I am just under the impression that more problems can occur when having a black/white child.
Genetic defects can be caused by errors in one or more genes passed on by the parents (inherited defects), by a missing, damaged, or extra chromosome (chromosomal disorders), or by a mixture of factors (multifactorial defects).
Some inherited disorders are more common in certain ethnic groups. These include sickle cell disease, Tay–Sachs disease, and cystic fibrosis.
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 29, 2009 12:20:55 GMT -5
Marcie, miscarriages and heart defects can happen to any baby of any race.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 29, 2009 12:26:11 GMT -5
I know that... maybe we could find stats on birth defects
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 29, 2009 12:32:48 GMT -5
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 29, 2009 12:51:03 GMT -5
So I guess it makes sense that bi-racial White-Black babies would have the highest risk of birth defects...since Black and White are the 2 highest.
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 29, 2009 23:33:27 GMT -5
WHat? Are you people serious?
That is like Genetics 101 I'm sorry.
If you don't know what you are talking about, maybe it's best to keep to another subject.
Cepha is right.
Why are you all just digging for reasons to say that interracial marriage is wrong?
At least learn a little about genetics and birth defects before you start using it as a platform for your prejudice.
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 29, 2009 23:37:49 GMT -5
www.acog.org/publications/patient_education/bp146.cfmMarcie, this is the website that you were quoting from. "Genetic defects can be caused by errors in one or more genes passed on by the parents (inherited defects), by a missing, damaged, or extra chromosome (chromosomal disorders), or by a mixture of factors (multifactorial defects). Some inherited disorders are more common in certain ethnic groups. These include sickle cell disease, Tay–Sachs disease, and cystic fibrosis. "
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 30, 2009 0:04:02 GMT -5
WHat? Are you people serious? That is like Genetics 101 I'm sorry. If you don't know what you are talking about, maybe it's best to keep to another subject. Cepha is right. Why are you all just digging for reasons to say that interracial marriage is wrong? At least learn a little about genetics and birth defects before you start using it as a platform for your prejudice. Excuse me... we are talking about black/white babies not MARRIAGE! And I'm not digging for anything! I was/am under the impression that bi-racial babies have better chances of having birth defects, THAT ALL! Thanks!  |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 30, 2009 0:18:55 GMT -5
Just some info i found.. In the United States, prematurity/low birthweight is the second leading cause of all infant deaths (during the first year of life) and the leading cause of infant death among black infants. During 2004-2006 (average) in the United States, late preterm birth rates were highest for Black infants (11.7%), followed by Native Americans (10.1%), Hispanics (8.8%), Whites (8.6%) and Asians (7.9%). • Late preterm babies have higher rates of adverse birth outcomes than term infants. Late preterm babies are at higher risk for breathing problems, feeding difficulties, jaundice, difficulties regulating body temperature and death compared to term babies. • During 2004-2006 (average), the very preterm birth rate in the United States was highest for black infants (4.1%), followed by Native Americans (2.1%), Hispanics (1.8%), whites (1.6%) and Asians (1.5%). • Black infants (4.1%) were about 3 times as likely as Asian infants (1.5%) to be born very preterm during 2004-2006 (average). • Very premature babies who survive may suffer lifelong consequences, including cerebral palsy, blindness and other chronic conditions. • During 2003-2005 (average), the infant mortality rate (per 1,000 live births) in the United States was highest for black infants (13.6), followed by Native Americans (8.5), whites (5.7), Hispanics (5.6) and Asians (4.7). • Black infants (13.6) were about 3 times as likely as Asian infants (4.7) to die during the first year of life during 2003-2005 (average). www.marchofdimes.com/peristats/tlanding.aspx?dv=lt®=99&top=6&lev=0&slev=1 |
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 30, 2009 7:45:18 GMT -5
Then Marcie, what is your point exactly? Why are you bringing this up?
What do you think gave you that "impression"?
What does any of it have to do with the GOP, with the Catholic Church or with any other subject on this board?
Those statistics that you quoted, what do they have to do with "bi-racial" babies? None of those statistics mentioned that.
Why do you think that "minorities" have greater chances of their babies having Birth defects? To me that is obvious, I'm wondering what your opinion is.
The FACT is that having children with someone OUTSIDE of your race, in fact with someone as completely different from you genetically as possible, greatly increases the chance of having healthy offspring.
And did you ever consider that your "sister's friend's" problems with her pregnancy had something to do with her own genetics?
That "black man" could just have easily told his family that he had lost 2 babies and had one with a birth defect because he was with a white woman!
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 30, 2009 12:14:35 GMT -5
Well, the topic started when cepha brought up what nixon said about aborting bi-racial fetuses. So thats when i put my 2 cents in about what i have witnesses, black/white babies dying. And by the way, alll the threads on here get off topic, so please dont speak to me that way. Thanks.
Not sure why african americans have the highest mortality rate in babies? That is just what the stats say. I mean, besides the fact that they do carry specific diseases that white and mexicans do not, may have something to do with it...but i fell like we are all born in an EQUAL enviornment, so i dunno.
Good possibility that it was her body...not sure though.
If you would like to continue this conversation, please speak to me with a lil more respect, thanks!
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Post by alfie on Jun 30, 2009 13:09:22 GMT -5
I wasn't going to say this because I'll be called a racist but the main reason minority babies have more birth defects and a higher mortality rate is because there are more minority women who use ilegal drugs.
There! I said it.
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Post by alfie on Jun 30, 2009 14:38:34 GMT -5
Hey, don't forget...the number one killers of minority Babies are their Minority Mothers so don't blame that on racism. It goes both ways. The same argument (racism) was used by liberals when blacks became hooked on crack and other illegal drugs. So, who do you blame for abortions? Those who made the law (Republicans) or those who perform the abortions (women and doctors)? And, do you deny you President's motives in allowing abortion to become law (interracial children)? Yes? Or no? Maybe Nixon was aware that biracial chidren faced obstacles in this society that white and black children did not. It used to be that both black and white people rejected biracial children because they weren't considered pure. Today that isn't so much of a problem. |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 30, 2009 15:27:23 GMT -5
Heather, I am not against inter-racial marriage or the making of inter-racial babies. I just posted the website because I was curious and Marcie said we should find some stats on the subject.
Alfie, Sometimes it's due to use of drugs period...not just illegal ones. But that can and is across the board with all races. Social-economic status has more to do with birth defects.
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