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Post by Cepha on Jul 29, 2009 9:46:15 GMT -5
Well, I know we (minorities) are complaining about the present. Take that example where that Black College Professor was arrested just because he requested the I.D. of the cop who responded to a call about someone breaking into his house. That was totally wrong (so much so, that they dropped the charges within 24 hours because they legally had no cause). As far as racism no existing anymore, I expect that mentality from someone who lives in a town that is 93% "one" race. You are clueless Marcie if you truly believe that racism doesn't exist anymore. First of all im not clueless! I prolly live in the most racist area in the us. I know! Not my city, but ones around. I knew that. cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/22/racial-tensions-mount-in-small-texas-town/ Can you blame them after what "you people" did to them? You people are going to have to pay for that one day. When they take over, I feel sorry for ya'll. Remember, the sins of the father are visited upon the children. I hope for your sake that black folk could learn to forgive you and move on. If not, when they take over (not if, but when), it might be history all over again.  Did you ever see the movie "The Planet of The Apes"? That was a veiled social commentary on what would happen if blacks had taken over and how they put whites under them and enslaved them. Hopefully, when whites become the minority in this country, the blacks will have forgiven your race for it's abuse of Africans for 400 years. |
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Post by alfie on Jul 29, 2009 14:30:56 GMT -5
First of all im not clueless! I prolly live in the most racist area in the us. I know! Not my city, but ones around. I knew that. cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/22/racial-tensions-mount-in-small-texas-town/ Can you blame them after what "you people" did to them? You people are going to have to pay for that one day. When they take over, I feel sorry for ya'll. Remember, the sins of the father are visited upon the children. I hope for your sake that black folk could learn to forgive you and move on. If not, when they take over (not if, but when), it might be history all over again. Did you ever see the movie "The Planet of The Apes"? That was a veiled social commentary on what would happen if blacks had taken over and how they put whites under them and enslaved them. Hopefully, when whites become the minority in this country, the blacks will have forgiven your race for it's abuse of Africans for 400 years. What makes you so sure the blacks won't come after you too? Every once in a while I hear news reports out of California saying that blacks and hispanics are fighting against each other, especially those who are in prison. I'm too old to ever see the minorities take over this country but I feel sorry for Marcie's little boy and my young nephews and nieces who will not grow up in a free America. |
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Post by alfie on Jul 29, 2009 14:41:38 GMT -5
So was the neighbor who called the police also a racist? No. In fact, on the tapes, she even stated that she wasn't sure if they were burglars or actually homeowners and never mentioned race (though she did mention ethnicity thinking one of them could've been Hispanic which isn't a race). She stated that they could've lived there and couldn't say for sure that they were not the homeowners. Then, if the cops would've caught him, they would've arrested him. Where did you get this statistic from? I believe it. When people are racially oppressed, they are definitely more likely to be violent. But as far as racial profiling goes, that is wrong. For example, I'd say almost 100% of American Terrorists are white. Are whites racially profiled in the war on terror when it comes to terrorism at home? When Timothy McVey bombed that federal building, were whites profiled? No. Most racism is caused by whites against minorities. Do the police profile whites as racists? No. Profiling does far more harm than good pitting the people against the police. And that's why cops have a hard time getting cooperation from people of color...because of profiling. Profiling is institutionalized racism. It's literally the ability to legally be susupicious of someone before they are proven guilty due to their race. I was in these projects once and I saw some drug dealers. Not one of their customers were black however. Only white people went there to buy drugs. But when the arrests came down, who do you think got arrested? Actually, Professor Gates gave him his ID and cooperated. When Professor Gates requested the officer's ID, the officer rudely ignored him and turned and walked away. This is why he got upset. By law, the officer was supposed to show him ID (which he didn't until Professor Gates made a big deal about it). The cop then threatened Prof. Gates after he insisted to see the cop's ID. Also, buy Massachusets Constitutional Law, the officer had no legal right to arrest Prof. Gates. This is why they HAD to drop the charges. So, the cop was totally wrong. Did they ask you for proof that you lived there? Probably not as a racial issue, but as an abuse of police power. Whether the cop was black or white, either way, it was wrong to arrest the Professor according to Mass. Const. Law. And? Why does that matter? Because Bill Cosby is black? I'm sure that's what "some" Americans would want to believe, but the fact is, if Professor Gates would've been white, we wouldn't be talking about this at all today, would we? When Prof. Gates lost his temper after the cop disrespected him in his own house, he never said "is this because I'm a Professor?" Nope. He said "is this because I'm black?" He became irate because he was disrespected. Again, if Prof. Gates was white, would we be talking about this today? Not as a racial issue I bet. I read the police report and you are dead wrong. However I will cut professor Gates some slack because he was upset over being locked out of his house and I am sure that added to his agitation with the policeman. You are the racist here when you say Gates was arrested because he is black. You might be able to make the case for abuse of police power because the officer who was with the white policeman was black. There is nothing wrong with racial profiling. The police use it all the time when they are looking for a serial killer. When that happens they are usually looking for a white man so get the chip off your shoulder. |
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Post by teresahrc on Jul 29, 2009 16:07:20 GMT -5
What? If minorities "take over" (don't really know what is meant by that statement) then America would not be "free"? What is that supposed to mean?
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Post by doxology on Jul 29, 2009 16:12:18 GMT -5
Minorities have a sense of entitlement and indeed a sense of elitism due to their past as being persecuted, that I
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Post by doxology on Jul 29, 2009 16:12:44 GMT -5
dont just see disappearing when they become the minoirty, it wories me.
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Post by teresahrc on Jul 29, 2009 16:33:33 GMT -5
Wow, so basically what you are saying is that white people should always rule America because you are afraid of minorities? Do you think that they deserve to always be oppressed because you are afraid that what happened to them could happen to you?
Except, you don't have to worry about that. They have souls. They remember. What was done to them, they would never do to even their worst enemies because they know how purely wicked it was.
It's ok though, because Jesus said that those who were "last" on earth-- those who were oppressed, mistreated, ostracized etc. will be "first" in heaven.
"...one day every valley shall be engulfed,
every hill shall be exalted and every mountain shall be made low,
the rough places will be made plains and the crooked places will
be made straight and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and
all flesh shall see it together."
(M. L. King)
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Post by doxology on Jul 29, 2009 16:39:24 GMT -5
I did not say minorities should be opressed ... but I dont think they should get special treatment.
I know they will do the same thing .... because they have souls ... human souls corrupted due to the fall ... we all have an inclination towards sin due to our fallen nature ... so wether or not they were on the recieveing end of the sins of those of us who are of a caucasian background does in no way negate that they will do the same thing when they are in the majority .... such is human nature.
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Post by teresahrc on Jul 29, 2009 16:53:08 GMT -5
Who said anything about "special treatment"? Not me.
I can't believe you just said that you "know they will do the same thing"! Really?! That is one of the scariest things I've read on here. You honestly think that if minorities "take over" (which to me, means simply that caucasians become the minority, and that those who were formally "minorities" assume the majority of influential positions and leadership roles) that they would commit the same atrocities that were done to them, including such things as slavery?
Yes, human souls are corrupted, but the plain fact is that some human beings are just more wicked than others, and commit more wicked sins.
Right now, we have an African American president. So, minorities have officially "taken over" the white house (finally). So, please tell me, if you really think your theory is correct, what acts of retribution has our president done against those of "caucasian backgrounds"? Where is he hiding all his caucasian slaves that supposedly his "human nature" cannot help but do because of his "corrupted" soul?
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Post by doxology on Jul 29, 2009 17:07:23 GMT -5
Well I believe already there has been some legislation to make it so that in the medical profession those admitted to be trained as doctors need to come from all different ethnic and racial backgrounds ... this is not good as it shows favoritism to the minorities and results in us having doctors who are not as good.
Yeah to bad he is extremely liberal .... I am not against having a black president ... Alan Keyes would of been ok but I am against having a liberal president of any kind who due to his liberalism will undoubtably pass more legislation to favorable to minorities.
You are suggesting now that the souls of Black people are less wicked then the souls of Whites???(Wickedness is determined by how much God gives us over to ourselves) Who knows maybe Blacks will treat whites worse then whites treated blacks ... maybe a bit better who knows, one thing is for certain humans are inclined towards evil and as the minority we would have much to fear
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jul 29, 2009 21:04:03 GMT -5
Here we go with "who" is gunna rule the land bolony! First it was the hispanics..now its the blacks..give me a break.
As to cepha's comment...
What i want to say would get me banned...i am having a lil restraint. But, i will say this! Not my mother NOR my grandmother and prolly not her mother owned a slave! So, them black folk can take that chip off their dang shoulder! To me its the guetto ones that still hold gruges on people like myself that have never owned a slave. That is catagorising me into a whole other catagory. Heck, Just GET OVER IT, PRAY THAT IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN AND MOVE ONE! ggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzz
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Post by Cepha on Jul 30, 2009 8:28:09 GMT -5
What makes you so sure the blacks won't come after you too? Because my people only enslaved them for a little while...then gave them their freedom. Besides, we have a common oppressor. You know, the whole "the enemy of my enemy is my friend deal"? Besides, "if" they wipe whites out or oppress them, by then, we'll become bigger in numbers (in fact, we are already bigger in numbers than them). So, the best hope for America is that Hispanics become the biggest race here (because we are mostly white by racial make up). That'll make sure that there won't be a race war. Of course, this could all just be me being silly! LOL!  Nothing new. It's because Hispanics are out producing them in numbers. So, the inevitable "takeover" is happening and of course, there is resistance from them. Nobody likes to give up their top spot. You should feel sorry...the "good old days" are gone and will never come back...get ready for equality and fair treatment!   |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 30, 2009 8:43:10 GMT -5
I read the police report and you are dead wrong. Come on now...we all know that the Massachusets police lie and have a history of racism and that that there are racist lieing police too...did you hear about this? Justin Barrett: Boston Cop Calls Gates 'Jungle Monkey' in E-mail
by Jon Azpiri | July 29, 2009 at 01:16 pm Boston police officer Justin Barrett has been fired after sending a mass e-mail referring to Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. as a "jungle monkey."www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/local/justin_barrett_full_email_072909I'd cut both of them some slack. Gates was illegally arrested. Crowley abused his power because Gates questioned him. Both (in my opinion) were completely wrong in their actions. Both were right to be upset. I never said Gates was arrested because he was black. Where did I say that? Show me! Quote my exact words or retract that lie! No...there was an abuse of authority by the cop and it had nothing to do with Gates color. He just didn't appreciate being questioned. And I'm the racist?  It's one thing to profile a suspect because of a description, but racial profiling is being suspicious of someone without them being a suspect soley based on race. When I was stopped and put in the back of a police car because a person fitting my description robbed somebody, I had no problem with complying with the police (who approached me very respectfully) and I fully cooperated with them. But, when my friend and I were yanked out of our car, had the car totally destroyed (panels ripped out while they claimed we had drugs) while we were forced to sit on a sidewalk with handcuffs for no reason at all, that ticked me off and made me hate the police (and it wasn't the first time and it wasn't the last time). But, you'll never know what that's like. I don't expect you to understand. Thank gosh that New York was at the forefront of hiring better educated men and women to be police officers. Now, we have the best police force in the world. Of course, it took a black mayor to make that happen (the other mayors never cared about it enough to do anything about it). |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 30, 2009 8:48:56 GMT -5
Minorities have a sense of entitlement and indeed a sense of elitism due to their past as being persecuted, that I How do you come to that conclusion? I certainly don't feel any entitlement (then again, I was never persecuted). Elitism? How can the persecuted minority be elitists? LOL! That statement makes no sense! And you say that as if racism is over with! LOL! Walk a mile in my shoes one day! LOL! |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 30, 2009 8:50:43 GMT -5
dont just see disappearing when they become the minoirty, it wories me. Don't just see "what" dissappearing when they (who are they? whites? ) become the minority?  |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 30, 2009 9:14:30 GMT -5
Wow, so basically what you are saying is that white people should always rule America because you are afraid of minorities? Do you think that they deserve to always be oppressed because you are afraid that what happened to them could happen to you? Except, you don't have to worry about that. They have souls. They remember. What was done to them, they would never do to even their worst enemies because they know how purely wicked it was. It's ok though, because Jesus said that those who were "last" on earth-- those who were oppressed, mistreated, ostracized etc. will be "first" in heaven. "...one day every valley shall be engulfed, every hill shall be exalted and every mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plains and the crooked places will be made straight and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together." (M. L. King) There's actually a term for those paranoid people...it's called: Angry White Man These are caucasians who blame minorities for their inability to succeed in life or who harbor great fear at their way of life changing due to the influx of people who don't share their lifestyle. They are just like the "Nativists" who feared immigrants that came from Ireland or Italy at one time. They believe that America should be a melting pot of only whites (not of all people) and they want to stop American from becoming diversified. Too late...the greed of big corporations in allowing illegals from South/Central America has already done away with that dream. They allowed too many Hispanics to come in...now, that is turning the tide. Unless whites stop having so many abortions and Hispanics stop producing so many children, the end is near for the white majority. The racists (not all whites, just the white racists in general) will become angrier and angrier. But those whites who are true Americans will enjoy a wonderful relationship with us who are now minorities and we will form one big happy family. As for racism against minorities? It will be... www.armystudyguide.com/downloads/Taps.mp3 |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 30, 2009 9:18:24 GMT -5
I did not say minorities should be opressed ... but I dont think they should get special treatment. Yep, no one should get special treatment. Do you have any incidents of institutionlized racism where whites are the minority? And, what makes you automatically assume the worse about non-whites? Do you think this will be payback for what whites did (and continue to do) to minorities? Or just human nature (meaning that if whites never unjustly oppressed minorities, people of color would still oppress whites)? |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 30, 2009 9:26:50 GMT -5
Well I believe already there has been some legislation to make it so that in the medical profession those admitted to be trained as doctors need to come from all different ethnic and racial backgrounds ... this is not good as it shows favoritism to the minorities and results in us having doctors who are not as good. Where is that? Can you cite a source to prove this? And, how is it favoritism? And, how are minority doctors "not as good" as white doctors? Oh, so legislation favorable to minorities is bad? You must be white! ;D Am I correct to judge you to be white by that statement? LOL! I guess, you miss Jim Crow huh! LOL! No. It's you that suggest that blacks would automatically be as wicked as wicked whites (notice I said wicked whites, not just whites in general). You mean, you fear payback, right? I would fear payback if I were you too. Unreasonable and evil blacks (like the unreasonable and evil whites that are in power today) would be bad for whites. Wouldn't it? Well, what is it? You reap what you sow and even if you didn't sow wickedness towards blacks, I guess innocent whites will have to pay for their ancestors' wicked behavior. Sad, but it is a possibility (although I know of no instance where when blacks came into power, they repaid whites with the same treatment that they received in general). Do you? |
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Post by alfie on Aug 1, 2009 18:35:32 GMT -5
I did not say minorities should be opressed ... but I dont think they should get special treatment. Yep, no one should get special treatment. Do you have any incidents of institutionlized racism where whites are the minority? And, what makes you automatically assume the worse about non-whites? Do you think this will be payback for what whites did (and continue to do) to minorities? Or just human nature (meaning that if whites never unjustly oppressed minorities, people of color would still oppress whites)? What difference does skin color make? In Rwanda Africa the Hutus killed the Tutusi's because the Tutsi's treated the Hutus like crap. In fact they killed a half a million Tutus in two days. So why wouldn't blacks seek revenge against whites? |
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Post by alfie on Aug 1, 2009 18:59:50 GMT -5
What makes you so sure the blacks won't come after you too? Because my people only enslaved them for a little while...then gave them their freedom. Besides, we have a common oppressor. You know, the whole "the enemy of my enemy is my friend deal"? Besides, "if" they wipe whites out or oppress them, by then, we'll become bigger in numbers (in fact, we are already bigger in numbers than them). So, the best hope for America is that Hispanics become the biggest race here (because we are mostly white by racial make up). That'll make sure that there won't be a race war. Of course, this could all just be me being silly! LOL! Nothing new. It's because Hispanics are out producing them in numbers. So, the inevitable "takeover" is happening and of course, there is resistance from them. Nobody likes to give up their top spot. You should feel sorry...the "good old days" are gone and will never come back...get ready for equality and fair treatment! I know enough about Spanish history to know that blacks have always been the lowest on the food chain in Spanish, Colonial countries. It's not only in America where skin color matters. In every country of the world darker skinned people are looked down on. In India the dark skinned people are the Dallaks (untouchables). And among blacks themselves lighter skinned blacks are prefered. I don't know why this is so? What is with you anyway? White Hispanics are of European desent. You gave yourself away when you said the best hope for America is if white Hispanics become the largest ethnic group in America so that blacks will not win the race war. From that comment I can only conclude that you don't care much for blacks or non-Hispanic whites. |
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