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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 11:41:20 GMT -5
Why is PB16 so popular? Because he's hardcore. He doesn't yield to the world, but makes the world yield to The Word. Catholics who don't believe everything he teaches are like those disciples that walked away from Jesus when He taught teachings that were too hard to listen to. The Church is being purged folks. Under PJII, The Church was growing spiritually. Now it's time The Church grows intellectually, actually, physically. Steadfast, unchanging, unmoving, too ridgid. This is what he is called as a criticism. But that sounds like a rock to me. Yep..."Thou art rock, and upon this rock I will build My Church." Amen Jesus. Amen.
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Post by alfie on Apr 16, 2008 15:45:52 GMT -5
Why is PB16 so popular? Because he's hardcore. He doesn't yield to the world, but makes the world yield to The Word. Catholics who don't believe everything he teaches are like those disciples that walked away from Jesus when He taught teachings that were too hard to listen to. The Church is being purged folks. Under PJII, The Church was growing spiritually. Now it's time The Church grows intellectually, actually, physically. Steadfast, unchanging, unmoving, too ridgid. This is what he is called as a criticism. But that sounds like a rock to me. Yep..."Thou art rock, and upon this rock I will build My Church." Amen Jesus. Amen. If the pope decides to demand that Catholics follow what the church teaches that will only leave maybe 100 million Catholic members. I do respect the pope for talking about eliminating all of the cafeteria Catholics in your church. That would take a lot of guts for him to do so.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 16:09:40 GMT -5
That already happened in the 16th Century. But, did The Church shrink? No. It exploded even more. The more orthodox we get, the more rigid we get, the stronger The Church becomes.
He never talked about eliminating all of the cafetiria Catholics in The Church.
Where did you get that from?
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 17:20:27 GMT -5
Wow...the anti-Catholics must be boiling in their own blood right now.
Their showing The Mass on all the TV Channels.
Wow.
Luke 11:33 "No one, after lighting a lamp, puts it away in a cellar nor under a basket, but on the lampstand, so that those who enter may see the light."
Amen!
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 16, 2008 17:45:48 GMT -5
Or anti-catholicismists just aren't watching it :-D
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 17:53:09 GMT -5
Or anti-catholicismists just aren't watching it :-D They can't help it...he's all over the channels.
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 16, 2008 18:06:59 GMT -5
Oh we can help it, lol. Hubby and I only watch pre-recorded shows.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 18:07:52 GMT -5
Oh we can help it, lol. Hubby and I only watch pre-recorded shows. So you admit to being an anti-Christian?
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 16, 2008 18:23:11 GMT -5
Just anti-Catholicism.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 18:27:05 GMT -5
Yeah...that's what I said...anti-universal Christianity.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 18:35:02 GMT -5
You're against universal Christianity, right? You're against the whole world coming to Christ (which is Catholic Christianity). Literally. You said it yourself...your against universal Christianity (Catholicism).
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 16, 2008 19:08:56 GMT -5
I would love it if the whole world came to know Christ.
I don't view Catholicism as a Christian religion.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 19:32:01 GMT -5
I would love it if the whole world came to know Christ. I don't view Catholicism as a Christian religion. Then you don't view Christianity as a Christian religion because we are the first Chrisitans, The Apostles were Catholics, The Church Fathers were Catholics, The Church that God chose to create The Holy Bible is Catholic and Christians have always been Catholic. Now, take out the word "catholic" and insert the word "universal" there (since we're not in Greece). Then you don't view Christianity as a Christian religion because we are the first Chrisitans, The Apostles were universal, The Church Fathers were universal, The Church that God chose to create The Holy Bible is universal and Christians have always been universal. The only Christians that aren't Catholic are Denominational Christians (those Christians that belong to sects created by human beings and that can trace their church's beginnng to a man directly). That's why you are a Denominational Christian. You belong to one Church in The Body of Christ. I belong to The Body of Christ. It is a universal body. Not a denominational body. Jesus' body isn't divided into groups. Again, if you don't believe in Catholicicsm (universal Christianity), why do you use a Catholic book; The Holy Bible? You can say God created it all you want, but the only proof that you have is that same book that was created by The Catholic Church. No matter how you slice it or what name you put on it...it is a universal Christan book. God's name is "not" King James. That's not His name on your book. That's a Denominational Man's name on it. God is not Denominational. Denominations were created by men 1,500 years after Jesus was ressurected. They didn't exist in The Holy Bible. Only universal Christians (Christians not divided by denominations) existed in Scripture.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 19:34:32 GMT -5
Matter of fact, name one Apostle or Christian Biblical figure that was a Denominational Christian?
Then, name that denomination:
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 16, 2008 19:35:27 GMT -5
At the moment, you won't understand because you are blinded by the CC.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 19:40:10 GMT -5
At the moment, you won't understand because you are blinded by the CC. I guess you're not going to answer my question then right? By the way...I used to be more anti-Catholic than you are now. Way more. But then I started to read the bible without anybody telling me what it meant. Read Matthew 16:18. Then go find The Church Peter started. Don't go to a Catholic Church for information...just study on your own (if you're allowed to). ;D If you did that, then you could honestly say God taught you (and not man).
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 19:43:14 GMT -5
But for the record, I'll re-list the questions I asked you that have nothing to do with me being blinded by the Catholic Church:
1. Again, if you don't believe in Catholicicsm (universal Christianity), why do you use a Catholic book; The Holy Bible?
2. Matter of fact, name one Apostle or Christian Biblical figure that was a Denominational Christian?
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 16, 2008 19:56:31 GMT -5
1) The Bible is God's Book, and a book for everyone, not just Catholics.
2) None. But, I do not think Catholicism then was the same as it is now. Either that or the apostles got it way wrong from the get-go.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 16, 2008 20:08:27 GMT -5
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Post by righteousone on Apr 21, 2008 12:28:29 GMT -5
At the moment, you won't understand because you are blinded by the CC. You my friend just don't have any answers to these historical, hard facts that cepha points out to you. Admit this and then start learning your history.
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