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Post by Cepha on Jun 24, 2008 18:20:42 GMT -5
Oh my wow!
While some might attempt to attack your story as your being misled by evil spirits in the guise of angels of light, Jesus left us a way to discern this vision you had...what were the fruits of that work?
Did you become a better Christian?
Did you grow closer to God & to Christ?
If the fruits are good, so then is the vision's source.
You are blessed!
As you grow in your faith, you're going to see all of the meanings of the symbolism. But for now, I'd suggest you read Revelations 12 if you haven't.
By the way, Muslims love Mary as well and she appeared to 150,000 of them converting them over night in...EGYPT!
And, she actually fled "to" Egypt when Herod set out to persecute the infant Jesus.
And this is even mentioned in Revelations 12.
She went to Egypt with Jesus until Herod died.
When did Herod die?
Historically speaking...0 A.D.
How do we know this?
Because this is about the time that his son took over and when it was safe for Mary to come back to Jeruselum.
What does Revelation 12 say about the "woman"?
That she fled for about 1260 days.
When was Jesus born?
About 4 years "before" Herod died.
When was this?
About 4 B.C.!
When did Mary come back to Jeruselum?
About 1260 days "after" she fled it.
When Jesus had just been born!
The circle you saw her on? The Moon?
The band? Light?
READ REVELATIONS 12!
See if your vision makes even more sense to you after that!
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Post by Cepha on Jun 24, 2008 18:20:59 GMT -5
Revelations 12
1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 24, 2008 18:29:06 GMT -5
By the way...welcome to The Family. Revelations 12:17 tells us that Mary is our mother...at least all of those who keep the commandments of God. Christians. This is just one of the places were learn that as we have a physical mother, we also have a spiritual mother. Jesus, Who is referred to as our everlasting life, came through her womb. Therefore, our spiritual everlasting life came through her womb. She is our mother.   |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 24, 2008 18:38:02 GMT -5
Thank you, Cepha, I had read Revelation many times as a protestant, but it was like I had blinders over my eyes(like from brainwashing) that the woman was referring to the Church and not Mary! Well, Mary is the Mother of the Church, so it's partially correct, but it is so plainly about Mary that no one can deny it. Interestingly, it is Satan who tries to attack her. I would much rather be on the side of the one's who protect her! I have other stories about Mary, I'll try to write later. Teresa Here...read this (it's my personal breakdown of Rev 12): fideidefensor.proboards80.com/index.cgi?board=scripture&action=display&thread=93As to how to post pics, copy & paste the address of the pic you want to post on to the message box when you are posting a message, highlight it, then click on the little photograph box on the 2nd row of buttons just over your message box with the little portrait on it. Then, your pics will be posted. If you have any problems, just PM me. |
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Post by Danica-Christine. on Jul 2, 2008 3:39:27 GMT -5
That's incredible! May God bless you!
My mother (a Protestant) has had 2 visions of the Blessed Virgin Our Lady of Grace, we presume. My mother did not believe in Marianology at the time, but, by the grace of God, she saw the most beautiful vision of the Blessed Virgin.
This changed my mother's entire life. Today, she's also in RCIA, and is as fervent about Mary as any life-long Catholic!
I LOVE your painting. Stunning. xx
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Post by Danica-Christine. on Jul 2, 2008 4:25:31 GMT -5
Oh, and, please write and tell us more! I'd love to see your iconic paintings! xx
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Post by Cepha on Jul 2, 2008 7:28:51 GMT -5
That's incredible! May God bless you! My mother (a Protestant) has had 2 visions of the Blessed Virgin Our Lady of Grace, we presume. My mother did not believe in Marianology at the time, but, by the grace of God, she saw the most beautiful vision of the Blessed Virgin. This changed my mother's entire life. Today, she's also in RCIA, and is as fervent about Mary as any life-long Catholic! I LOVE your painting. Stunning. xx Honestly, I'm shocked to hear stories like that. I knew of one person who's faith was brought to Christianity from Jehovah's Witness, but I've never heard about Protestants coming to love her. About your mother, "exactly" how has her life changed is the true "witness". How did she live before her vision of Mary and how is she living now? What are the fruits of her vision and belief that Mary is serving God right now by spiritually evangelizing people? Again, what are the fruits? Is she a better person? Is she more of a Christian now not because she believes in Mary as we do, but what actions has she taken? Is she more charitable to others? Understand? That is how one tests th spirit. Amen. |
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Post by Danica-Christine. on Jul 2, 2008 14:22:59 GMT -5
That's incredible! May God bless you! My mother (a Protestant) has had 2 visions of the Blessed Virgin Our Lady of Grace, we presume. My mother did not believe in Marianology at the time, but, by the grace of God, she saw the most beautiful vision of the Blessed Virgin. This changed my mother's entire life. Today, she's also in RCIA, and is as fervent about Mary as any life-long Catholic! I LOVE your painting. Stunning. xx Honestly, I'm shocked to hear stories like that. I knew of one person who's faith was brought to Christianity from Jehovah's Witness, but I've never heard about Protestants coming to love her. About your mother, "exactly" how has her life changed is the true "witness". How did she live before her vision of Mary and how is she living now? What are the fruits of her vision and belief that Mary is serving God right now by spiritually evangelizing people? Again, what are the fruits? Is she a better person? Is she more of a Christian now not because she believes in Mary as we do, but what actions has she taken? Is she more charitable to others? Understand? That is how one tests th spirit. Amen. Dear Steven, Oh, yes! Some of the evident fruits: I. Love towards her enemies. II. She forgives more easily. III. She has peace. IV. She's 1000x closer to Our Lord. V. She's teaching others about the Blessed Mother. VI. She's let go of a lot of pride. [This she tells me; not my notion.] VII. Her heart has been softened. And the list goes on. Is that enough? ;D In Mary Immaculate, Danica-Christine. |
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Post by Cepha on Jul 2, 2008 14:56:57 GMT -5
Again, what are the fruits? Is she a better person? Is she more of a Christian now not because she believes in Mary as we do, but what actions has she taken? Is she more charitable to others? Understand? That is how one tests the spirit. Amen. Dear Steven, Oh, yes! Some of the evident fruits: I. Love towards her enemies. II. She forgives more easily. III. She has peace. IV. She's 1000x closer to Our Lord. V. She's teaching others about the Blessed Mother. VI. She's let go of a lot of pride. [This she tells me; not my notion.] VII. Her heart has been softened. And the list goes on. Is that enough? ;D In Mary Immaculate, Danica-Christine. [/quote] Those are good fruits so the spirit was good! Praise God for sending us messages in whatever guise He uses! Amen! |
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Post by Danica-Christine. on Jul 2, 2008 14:58:19 GMT -5
Yes, amen!
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Post by redsoxfan on Jul 17, 2008 23:27:17 GMT -5
I also had a marian episode, though not as vivid as that. It was when i was about 10. God allowed me to see it and it has given me faith to never have doubt about my religion.
I was at first reading one of your posts teresa but something jumped out at me with what you said. I thought I saw "Our Lady of Protestants", which seems so fitting, when you actually said "Now I am a passionate defender of our Lady to Protestants (in love of course). And a few days ago I completed a painting of my vision. " Well you got me thinking.
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Post by redsoxfan on Jul 22, 2008 12:45:39 GMT -5
I'll pm when I get a chance but that could be in a few weeks. Odd you mention St. Dominic. I had a dream about him 6 months ago.
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Post by alfie on Apr 22, 2009 15:49:41 GMT -5
If a vision of Mary ever appears before me I will plead the blood of Jesus Christ against it. That should make it disappear.
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 22, 2009 16:09:18 GMT -5
alfie- do you think God ever really does send Mary to tell people things? LIke He does the angels.
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Post by alfie on Apr 22, 2009 17:13:45 GMT -5
alfie- do you think God ever really does send Mary to tell people things? LIke He does the angels. I suppose God could but that is why I would be very careful and plead the blood in order to be sure it wasn't a demon. Don't forget that if people believe visions of Mary appear than Satan will give them exactly what they want in order to deceive them. It's like the late bishop Pike who believed he could make contact with his dead son. His dead son (demon) appeared before him in a vision so a Christian has to have Biblical discernment in these things. |
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 22, 2009 18:05:10 GMT -5
Alfie, I agree. I think most sightings of "Mary" and "angels" is the work of satan. But God does do it sometimes...just have to compare what they say to the Word to make sure they are True Messangers.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 23, 2009 13:05:42 GMT -5
If a vision of Mary ever appears before me I will plead the blood of Jesus Christ against it. That should make it disappear. Well actually, that "blood" of Christ was all Mary's blood since He had no biological father. Therefore, you'd be pleading the blood of Mary too!  |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 23, 2009 13:09:38 GMT -5
I suppose God could but that is why I would be very careful and plead the blood in order to be sure it wasn't a demon. Don't forget that if people believe visions of Mary appear than Satan will give them exactly what they want in order to deceive them. You'd have to somehow justify that God stopped sending messengers from Heaven (like He sent Moses and Elijah to Jesus during the transfiguration). There would have to be some biblical support for this to be a Christian belief. Is there any proof that God stopped sending non-Angelic Heavenly messengers? And, Satan has no power to give us what we want. Only God does. Well, what has to be done is that the spirit has to be tested (which is what The Bible states). Remember when Mary appeared in Egypt and overnight, 150,000 Muslims converted to Christianity? What was the fruit of that spirit? It was good right? Muslims came to accept Jesus Christ. So that spirit couldn't have been from Satan because Satan can't work against Satan. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 23, 2009 13:12:38 GMT -5
Alfie, I agree. I think most sightings of "Mary" and "angels" is the work of satan. But God does do it sometimes...just have to compare what they say to the Word to make sure they are True Messangers. Absolutely correct. A "true" spirit can be tested. Another example is The Virgin of Savana Grande Puerto Rico. She appeared to a barrio that was abandoning The Church and Christianity. She pleaded on behalf of her Son that they return back to The Faith. As a proof of her authority, she blessed a stream. My uncle who was dieing from several tumors in his organs of cancer was completely miraculously healed from all of them. The barrio turned back to The Faith and a Church that began as a shack grew into near Cathedral. What was the work of that "vision"? It was good. |
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Post by Ramon on Apr 23, 2009 14:50:30 GMT -5
Yes, I agree with both you. We must test every spirit, as Saint John wrote (1 John 4:1). One of the test is that any spirit will always lead you to Christ and His Church. If a spirit is saying something contrary to faith of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church....run away! RUN AWAY!  In IC.XC, Ramon |
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