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Post by watchman on May 11, 2009 20:15:36 GMT -5
I agreed with your post until the end. You are not guilty of being gay if you judge a gay person. That is not what Romans 2 is saying. It is saying if you are guilty of the same thing judging someone else will not saved you from God's wrath. I like to just take the verse as it is written. There is also a difference between a person, and a person's actions. Someone could be a "gay person" without sinning. And someone could be "straight" and be guilty of a "gay" sin. It says what I said it does, because you who pass judgment do the same thing. Their error was not judging, but for doing the same thing they judge other for doing. |
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Post by Cepha on May 12, 2009 12:45:06 GMT -5
But Revelation 12 says that Satan already persecuted The Church (2000 years ago). The Anti-Christ was Nero (that's what 666 means). Ohhhh...you must believe that the book of Revelations is talking about something that never happened! You dont' accept it as it was written (in the 90's by John). That's why you're confused. Sorry but I am not confused. You have been brain washed into accepting doctrines that are obviously false I feel sad for you if this is what you truly believe. You are so far off from the truth. Well, there's what you believe and then there's what "is". Question is, which one was already proven by history and which is theory? It is factual that The Apostles wrote in code. If you refute that, then you refute scripture (and I respect your right to do so). Otherwise, you'd have to believe that Saint Peter was actually "in" Iraq (even though Christianity has never believed that). But don't just take my word for it...let's see what the scholarly consensus is from unbiased sources: Oh, and if you believe that "Nero" does "not" add up to 666, then, you are just plain wrong (and this has nothing to do with religious beliefs). InterpretationsName
One interpretation is that 666 encodes the letters of someone’s name and/or title, identifying the Antichrist.
Nero
Scholars who believe that the Book of Revelation refers to historical people and events argue that the number represents Nero. In Hebrew gematria, every letter has a corresponding number. Summing these numbers gives a numeric value to a word or name. The Greek spelling, “Nerōn Kaisar,” transliterates into Hebrew as “נרון קסר” or “nrvn qsr”. Adding the corresponding values yields 666, as shown:
Resh (ר) Samekh (ס) Koof (ק) Noon (נ) Vav (ו) Resh (ר) Noon (נ) TOTAL
200 60 100 50 6 200 50 666
By contrast, the Latin title for Nero is spelled simply “Nerō Caesar,” which transliterates to “נרו קסר” or “nrv qsr” and has a value of 616, which may explain that variation.[20]
Resh(ר) Samekh (ס) Koof (ק) vav (ו) Resh (ר) Noon (נ) TOTAL
200 60 100 6 200 50 616
The hypothesis that 666 or 616 is a code for a Roman emperor seems to have historical support. The emperors were noted for their oppression of both Jews and Christians. Both communities were known to use numerology, codes and symbols (such as the Ichthys) when living under Roman rule to avoid persecution.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Number_of_the_Beast |
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Post by Cepha on May 12, 2009 12:46:27 GMT -5
Wow. I'm glad I serve a simple God who doesn't want to confuse us...aren't you watchman? You are right, God is not the author of confusion. But He is anything but simple. This is one of my favorite Bible verses: 33O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
35Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
36For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.(Romans 11) Basketball has Air Jordan...FideiDefensor has Air Teresa! ;D |
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Post by Cepha on May 12, 2009 12:58:43 GMT -5
What's wrong with rainbows Cepha? Remember Noah's ark? Come on. What? Nothing's wrong with rainbows. Why do you ask? |
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Post by Cepha on May 12, 2009 13:08:57 GMT -5
Fact: Jesus simply said "Do not judge."
Matthew 7
Judging Others
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
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Post by alfie on May 17, 2009 20:18:12 GMT -5
Won't be long before Christians are persecuted here is America. Christians have always been persecuted in America. Aren't you familiar with The Catholic Persecutions by Protestants when this country was founded? How many Catholics were killed in this country by Prods?Or how Protestants enslaved Christian African Americans? The Bible doesn't condemn slaveryThis country has always tolerated Christian persecution. Yeah, that's why we have 60 million Catholics in the U.S. Nothing new...like I said, this isn't a Christian country anyway. Christ would not allow Abortion or Legalized Prostitution or Gay Marriage or Unjust Wars, Etc... |
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 10:08:09 GMT -5
Abortion and prostitution has only been legal for the last 40 years or so. I still support the Iraq war. Also Franciscan University is honoring Michael Novak and he is a big supporter of the Iraq war. Yeah, but that's 40 years too long. I think Prostitution was always legal (they were called "brothels" back then) since the West was settled by Europeans. Well, Novak is against The Pope on Iraq and the Church's stand on it. I wonder why no one is picketing or calling out Franciscan U on this? Hmmm...what's the difference between Novak and President Obama? I wonder...both are 100% opposed to The Catholic Church with regards to their stances, but only the "brother" gets attacked by the "non-brothers" (wink, wink). Does anybody else see this? Novak who is a CATHOLIC gets a "pass" on his anti-Catholic Church, but President BroBama (who isn't even a Catholic) is attacked and lied about by Catholic Priests? One good thing about all this Alfie...the hypocrisy is being exposed in the Catholic Chruch and The Church is being wiped clean! Let all it's dirt come out now.  |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 18, 2009 11:43:15 GMT -5
I would guess why no one is speaking out about NOVAK is because he is not on the news all the time and noone is aware of who he is and what he does. Now that i know, i disagree with what he has been awarded too.
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 12:21:28 GMT -5
I would guess why no one is speaking out about NOVAK is because he is not on the news all the time and noone is aware of who he is and what he does. Now that i know, i disagree with what he has been awarded too. Didn't he have a heart attack or something and crash his Corvette in a hit and run? |
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 12:27:21 GMT -5
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Post by alfie on May 18, 2009 15:43:11 GMT -5
His name is Michael... not Robert and he is a philosopher, journalist, novelist, and diplomat. An American author of more than twenty-five books on the philosophy and theology of culture, Novak is most widely known for his book The Spirit of Democratic Capitalism (1982). In 2003, Novak publicly argued not only that the Iraq war was licit under Catholic just war teaching, but that it was "morally obligatory" under that teaching. |
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Post by alfie on May 18, 2009 15:48:33 GMT -5
And since we are on the topic of what is going on in the world... the pope is calling for a separate Palastinian state. All I can say is that I am appalled at the pope's statement.
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 15:52:57 GMT -5
And since we are on the topic of what is going on in the world... the pope is calling for a separate Palastinian state. All I can say is that I am appalled at the pope's statement. Alright! Yeeeeehhhh! Justice for God's Children! |
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Post by emily445455 on May 18, 2009 15:53:01 GMT -5
And since we are on the topic of what is going on in the world... the pope is calling for a separate Palastinian state. All I can say is that I am appalled at the pope's statement. What happened now? |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 18, 2009 16:06:54 GMT -5
WHAT does that mean?
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Post by alfie on May 18, 2009 16:08:35 GMT -5
And since we are on the topic of what is going on in the world... the pope is calling for a separate Palastinian state. All I can say is that I am appalled at the pope's statement. Alright! Yeeeeehhhh! Justice for God's Children! The land belongs to Israel just like God promised. Also I support the war in Iraq because someday Iraq along with Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon will be given to the Jews by God as predicted in the Bible. And I believe God was behind the Iraq war. |
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Post by emily445455 on May 18, 2009 16:10:41 GMT -5
The land belongs to Israel just like God promised. Also I support the war in Iraq because someday Iraq along with Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon will be given to the Jews by God as predicted in the Bible. And I believe God was behind the Iraq war.[/quote] The Pope supports the Palastinians having it? |
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Post by alfie on May 18, 2009 16:12:46 GMT -5
The land belongs to Israel just like God promised. Also I support the war in Iraq because someday Iraq along with Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon will be given to the Jews by God as predicted in the Bible. And I believe God was behind the Iraq war. The Pope supports the Palastinians having it?[/quote] Yes, he does Emily. The pope's being a real stinker. |
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 16:16:04 GMT -5
His name is Michael... not Robert and he is a philosopher, journalist, novelist, and diplomat. An American author of more than twenty-five books on the philosophy and theology of culture, Novak is most widely known for his book The Spirit of Democratic Capitalism (1982). In 2003, Novak publicly argued not only that the Iraq war was licit under Catholic just war teaching, but that it was "morally obligatory" under that teaching. Ohhh...see, that's why I had to ask. I wasn't sure. Thanks Alfie. (Wow...you really are on point today! Kudos! ;D ) |
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Post by Cepha on May 18, 2009 16:33:09 GMT -5
The land belongs to Israel just like God promised. Also I support the war in Iraq because someday Iraq along with Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon will be given to the Jews by God as predicted in the Bible. And I believe God was behind the Iraq war. The Pope supports the Palastinians having it? Yes, he does Emily. The pope's being a real stinker.[/quote] Hey! That's "Palestine"! The Palestinians were there first! The so-called Jews are Jewish by religion. Ethnically, their Europeans! How many blond haired/blued eyed arabs do you see in The Middle East? Huh? LOL! \ |
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