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Post by teresahrc on May 22, 2009 16:52:03 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but What!?!?!
Are you serious? Why not just throw them to the Crocs. and be done with it?
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Post by emily445455 on May 22, 2009 17:06:52 GMT -5
Alfie- I definilty disagree. Everyone is immoral, not just us crazy women. Men sleep with women they are not married to-immoral. Doctors perform abortions murding thousands of children-immoral. Women get the abortions-immoral.
Society as a whole is to blame. Feminism, no regard for human life, no regard for marriage, etc.
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Post by watchman on May 23, 2009 0:26:20 GMT -5
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Post by Cepha on May 23, 2009 8:26:03 GMT -5
Thing is, obama is pro-choice and thinks it is ok to have partial birth abortions. PERIOD. There you go again "slandering" The President of The United States. He is "against" partial birth abortions: On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly.Source: 2008 Fox News interview: presidential series Apr 27, 2008  |
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Post by Cepha on May 23, 2009 8:31:41 GMT -5
Is it really necessary, or appropriate, to curse? Well, it just my way of expressing myself sorry if your offended. If you are....i cant really help you with that. Shit is not that big of a deal. You were "correcting" me for not being acting "Catholic" towards someone who lied about The Pope. Then you don't act "Catholic" by cursing. It is a big deal (especially here). People have been banned for cursing. Colossians 3:8But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.I'm not saying I'm better than you, but you shouldn't judge.  |
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Post by Cepha on May 23, 2009 8:37:21 GMT -5
Hum.... he may be a great priest, but not such a great quote. So you dont' think that the women who kill babies bear the responsibility for killing them?  No, you assumed he did. He also spoke out against them. I just didn't quote what he said with regards to the doctors who perform the operation. And the ultimate responsibility is upon the person who allows this to happen and who makes it happen...the woman. That same excuse could be used for all sin T. Think about it, if we were in our right minds before we sinned, we wouldn't sin because we'd know it was wrong. The fact that we sin is proof of the unsoundness of out mind when we make that decision. Agreed wholeheartedly (and I've already stated this that they also are responsible for causing the deaths of children). Exactly! Feminism itself is against God's will for us. Evil attracts evil. Feminism puts the woman above all (even her children). You are preaching to the choir T. ;D |
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Post by Cepha on May 23, 2009 8:42:19 GMT -5
Hum.... he may be a great priest, but not such a great quote. He forgot about the men that get them pregnant and you also forgot about the "Doctor" and assistants who (not being under emotional duress as the mother usually is) kill the child. He also forgot about all the people who cooperate to help the woman instead of supporting her decision for life. Women who have abortions are usually under extreme emotional stress, which is further heightened by the hormones of pregnancy (men can't understand, sorry). Many of them are very young. Then there are these Doctors (usually men) all "professional" under no stress, who kill their babies to make some money. Often, women who have abortions are deserted by the father of the baby, or are pressured by him to have an abortion. When I think about all these factors, I really can't understand how "feminists" are so much in favor of abortion. It completely objectifies women. I agree with the priest. Most abortions are the result of immorality. It's not uncommom for these women to have more than one abortion. One hundred percent of the blame should be on the women ...not the men or the doctors. Today you have 40% of all children being born out-of-wedlock and that is because young women today are down right crazy. If a woman is not married to a man that woman can't expect a man to stick around especially if she is pregnant. There was a time when I believed that a man was obligated to provide for his children born out of wedlock but I no longer hold that view. Agreed. Abortion today is called a "medical procedure"! What da' heck? That just infuriates me to no end!  It should be illegal period! And most abortions ARE the result of immoral behavior. And most are by unwed women who use it as post pregnancy birth control. And no matter what, no woman can legally have an abortion unless they consent to it and are the ones who want it done. I'm in no way belittleing whatever trauma they go through, but that's what they get for knowingly killing their children. That's the greatest thing I admire about Sarah Palin! She had her child even though she know he'd be born mentally disabled. That's true motherly love. God will show her great mercy for that I believe when she is judged. |
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Post by Cepha on May 23, 2009 11:09:14 GMT -5
Not only do I insist it, Alfie proved I was telling the truth and that you lied about it. As to why not, the answer was in Alfie's post. The Church agrees with President Obama on the overwhelming majority of his stances except two: His Life issues (abortion, stem cell research, etc...) and Civil Unions. But on everything else, just war doctrine, social justice, equitable distribution of wealth, charity, reducing abortions, conservation and care of The Earth, etc...President Obama had more alignment with The Catholic Church than the alternative candidate. That's why. (See? I knew you were ready to snap...and that video posting proves what I've been saying all along!) |
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Post by Cepha on May 23, 2009 11:19:47 GMT -5
Not only do I insist it, Alfie proved I was telling the truth and that you lied about it. As to why not, the answer was in Alfie's post. The Church agrees with President Obama on the overwhelming majority of his stances except two: His Life issues (abortion, stem cell research, etc...) and Civil Unions. But on everything else, just war doctrine, social justice, equitable distribution of wealth, charity, reducing abortions, conservation and care of The Earth, etc...President Obama had more alignment with The Catholic Church than the alternative candidate. That's why. (See? I knew you were ready to snap...and that video posting proves what I've been saying all along!) You've no idea how much you are helping me prove my point (that one has to completely abandon reason to be an Anti-Catholic). You're breaking. Little by little, you're resorting to your old ways of insulting and of running when evidence is requested of you and of trying to change the focus of the topic when your cornered. And I'm loving (and smiling) every minute of it. I bet I'll have you violating the rule at least one more time before the month is up! LOL! I know exactly what to say to push your buttons (like I did the last time), but I've been digressing from my old ways. I find it's much better when I just let you talk. All I do is give you the rope and you know exactly what to do with it even if you don't know you're actually doing it. LOL! Why did you lie about The Pope? |
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Post by teresahrc on May 23, 2009 11:24:46 GMT -5
I never said that the woman isn't to blame.
But a woman that is being pressured and cooerced by others is not the only one guilty.
And seriously, you don't consider the "doctor" to be responsible? The DOCTOR is the one that actually does the killing. I don't see how you think they bear no responsibility.
Actually, I don't want to talk about this anymore. It's too depressing.
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Post by teresahrc on May 23, 2009 11:26:56 GMT -5
Watchman, what was that balony thing with you tube? I was all excited thinking you had proof that the pope spoke out against Obama. Did I miss something?
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Post by Cepha on May 23, 2009 12:00:58 GMT -5
But a woman that is being pressured and cooerced by others is not the only one guilty. And seriously, you don't consider the "doctor" to be responsible? The DOCTOR is the one that actually does the killing. I don't see how you think they bear no responsibility. Actually, I don't want to talk about this anymore. It's too depressing. Unless an abortion is forced upon a woman, she is the one who is the sole culprit for allowing it to happen. Without her consent, the doctors could not perform the abortion. She is the mother. No one forces her to place her legs in the stirrups and to allow others to murder her children. This isn't about judging the woman, but judging the sin itself and her culpability. The culpability is allllll hers. Period. Regardless of whether or not she was stressed out or changed her mind because she wanted to go to Spring Break or didn't want to have a baby because she couldn't afford it, nothing happens without her consent. |
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Post by Cepha on May 23, 2009 12:06:35 GMT -5
Watchman, what was that balony thing with you tube? I was all excited thinking you had proof that the pope spoke out against Obama. Did I miss something? I told you T. I know these Anti-Catholics. They try to come off as if they want to have an honest debate, but their goal is to insult and to lie about The Catholic Church. Remember the last time you stuck up for him and he STILL insulted me personally? You forget too easily. I've been around the block a bit more than you. I know those Anti-Catholics who are innocently against us, and those who serve another "one's" purpose. I just let them talk and eventually, they reveal themselves. You would be one of the soft hearted Apostles. I'd be one of those who wouldn't trust anybody. We are different in our approaches, but both needed. You calm me down and put a leash on me when I'm a bad boy, but sometimes, even I have to break off of that leash when I see that someone is going to bite The Church. When all is said and done, even a bad dog has a purpose. So here you have him revealing his true colors...what do you expect of he who called The Catholic Church "children of Satan"? We must be as gentle as doves (your job), but as cunning as serpents (my job). Joan would've wiped the floor with him.  |
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Post by watchman on May 23, 2009 14:38:33 GMT -5
Watchman, what was that balony thing with you tube? I was all excited thinking you had proof that the pope spoke out against Obama. Did I miss something? Yes you did, the world, Catholic and protestant stood by silently as Hitler took over Europe, and it seems the pope is remaining silent again when He should be speaking out against Obama's effort to take full control over every American. |
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Post by teresahrc on May 23, 2009 19:53:55 GMT -5
This is sick.
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Post by teresahrc on May 23, 2009 19:57:09 GMT -5
People also compared Bush to Hitler.
Whatever.
I didn't vote for Obama, and even if the Pope doesn't directly speak to Obama, it doesn't matter because he speaks out against all the anti-catholic things Obama does.
Jesus didn't come to overthrow Herod, as wicked as he may have been.
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