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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 14, 2009 0:25:28 GMT -5
Now i would like to know what everyone thinks about this. The plan is to put a tax on drinks that have too much suger in them to pay for the nationalized health plan that obama is pushing for. www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468245,00.html Whats next? Tax McDonalds and Wendies or KFC? I disagree totally!
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Post by Cepha on May 14, 2009 10:10:10 GMT -5
Now i would like to know what everyone thinks about this. The plan is to put a tax on drinks that have too much suger in them to pay for the nationalized health plan that obama is pushing for. www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468245,00.html Whats next? Tax McDonalds and Wendies or KFC? I disagree totally! LOL! Of course you disagree! You're an unpatriotic American who doesn't want to kick in their fair share of the burden to protect and care for children! LOL Jussssst Kidddding! You just want them to all stay sick and suffer! LOL! (See, if we had nationalized healthcare, you would've been able to get those medical tests you needed, right? ) You know what I always say...if you don't want to pay taxes, move to a socialist communist country. They don't have taxes there! LOL!
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Post by Ramon on May 14, 2009 10:30:18 GMT -5
Now i would like to know what everyone thinks about this. The plan is to put a tax on drinks that have too much suger in them to pay for the nationalized health plan that obama is pushing for. www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468245,00.html Whats next? Tax McDonalds and Wendies or KFC? I disagree totally! Isn't this all based upon the fact that America is Fat, and getting fatter? I think I heard that before. I don't mind taxing sodas. If it means lowering the amount of people who drink these junk drinks and pushing health care.....by all means....brings on tax! ;D We need healthcare in America. I don't see all the fuss is about. Pay the taxes and get more healthcare. What's better than that? In IC.XC, Ramon
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Post by Cepha on May 14, 2009 10:38:16 GMT -5
Now i would like to know what everyone thinks about this. The plan is to put a tax on drinks that have too much suger in them to pay for the nationalized health plan that obama is pushing for. www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468245,00.html Whats next? Tax McDonalds and Wendies or KFC? I disagree totally! Isn't this all based upon the fact that America is Fat, and getting fatter? I think I heard that before. I don't mind taxing sodas. If it means lowering the amount of people who drink these junk drinks and pushing health care.....by all means....brings on tax! ;D We need healthcare in America. I don't see all the fuss is about. Pay the taxes and get more healthcare. What's better than that? In IC.XC, Ramon Plus, isn't it great that President Obama is taxing everything that is bad for Americans so that we could consume less of it therefore causing less harm to our health and being less of a burden on the health system? It's a win/win/win situation. The person who drinks too much soda wins (because hopefully, they'll drink less and do less harm to their bodies), the American People get more tax revenue (lowering the burden on the working man) and the health care system will also be less burdened because less people will have to be cared for by the American Taxpayer for Diabietes and Soda Related sicknesses. Obama! Obama! Obama! (And I'm saying this as a person who drinks two liters of soda a day! I lovvvvve soda!)
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Post by emily445455 on May 14, 2009 11:11:50 GMT -5
Nah they won't drink less, they'll just spend more.
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Post by Cepha on May 14, 2009 11:33:19 GMT -5
Nah they won't drink less, they'll just spend more. True. So, when they spend the 5-7 cents on soda, that's more money coming back to the American Taxpayer because of the less burden on the Health Care plan. Not bad. ;D (Better we spend money caring for people than giving big oil companies multi-billion dollar tax breaks! )
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 14, 2009 11:35:33 GMT -5
Now i would like to know what everyone thinks about this. The plan is to put a tax on drinks that have too much suger in them to pay for the nationalized health plan that obama is pushing for. www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468245,00.html Whats next? Tax McDonalds and Wendies or KFC? I disagree totally! LOL! Of course you disagree! You're an unpatriotic American who doesn't want to kick in their fair share of the burden to protect and care for children! LOL Jussssst Kidddding! You just want them to all stay sick and suffer! LOL! (See, if we had nationalized healthcare, you would've been able to get those medical tests you needed, right? ) You know what I always say...if you don't want to pay taxes, move to a socialist communist country. They don't have taxes there! LOL! Actually cepha, i did go and have lots of cardiac testing....paid for it too. It was not as expensive as i thought. Sometimes you just have to do what is best for you regardless if it will cost you money. You cant put a price on life. I dont mind paying taxes cepha, i think we pay enough, but putting extra taxes out there to pay for someones agenda is redicules. The whole idea is stupid. He needs to find another way to pay for this...
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 14, 2009 11:42:52 GMT -5
Nah they won't drink less, they'll just spend more. True. So, when they spend the 5-7 cents on soda, that's more money coming back to the American Taxpayer because of the less burden on the Health Care plan. Not bad. ;D (Better we spend money caring for people than giving big oil companies multi-billion dollar tax breaks! ) But i thought the tax on colas was to stop people from drinking so much for their health? Do you really think obama gives a crap about my health? I dont. By the way, the show THE DOCTERS had a whole show dedicated to teach people how to get affordable healthcare because its out there. People that work should pay for their insurance, people that are lazy and dont want to work...thats what medicaid is for...
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 14, 2009 11:44:10 GMT -5
About the oil....i have some oil stock...hoping it jumps! We are hoping to double our money that we put in the spring, we will see.
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Post by Cepha on May 14, 2009 11:54:42 GMT -5
Actually cepha, i did go and have lots of cardiac testing....paid for it too. It was not as expensive as i thought. Sometimes you just have to do what is best for you regardless if it will cost you money. You cant put a price on life. See that? If Obama would've been our last President, you would'nt have had to have taken that money from off of your family's table. It would've been taken care of for you because hardworking Americans deserve their tax dollars to work for them. I think healthcare/food/shelter/clothing/education should be free if not at least super-affordable that anybody who is able-bodied and can work will be able to take care of themselves. For those who are disabled? We should care for them. That is the Chrsitian way. I think we pay way too much as it is myself (that's why we're getting a tax "cut" under President Obama...the biggest cut in the countries history). As for taxing those things which contribute to too much spending in our economy (cigarettes, soda, gas, etc...), it's good that he taxes all those things that hurt us. We can take that money and take care of those people who get cancer from smoking, diabetes and obesity and heart failure from soda and we can help the enviroment by cutting down on the toxins we put in the air with gas consumption. And! I'm glad you got what you needed...not everybody is as fortunate as you are. There are many people today who've worked their whole lives and who've lost everything due to the greedy Wall Street Brokers who robbed them unjustly because of deregulation. They worked hard and still can't get the medical care you got, unless we chip in and help our countrymen out. We're Americans. If we can help out foreigners when they have troubles, we should certainly help out our own.
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Post by Cepha on May 14, 2009 11:57:21 GMT -5
True. So, when they spend the 5-7 cents on soda, that's more money coming back to the American Taxpayer because of the less burden on the Health Care plan. Not bad. ;D (Better we spend money caring for people than giving big oil companies multi-billion dollar tax breaks! ) But i thought the tax on colas was to stop people from drinking so much for their health? Do you really think obama gives a crap about my health? I dont. What is your proof that he doesn't care about American's health? What do you base this belief of your's on? That's the definition of socialism CC. People who work, get taken care of. People who don't, don't get taken care of. Way to go Commie! LOL!
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 14, 2009 11:58:15 GMT -5
I was taught by my parents to work hard for everything you get. I dont think anything should be for free! Food, shelter?? Are you kidding me? If everything was free then no one would work.
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Post by Cepha on May 14, 2009 11:59:07 GMT -5
About the oil....i have some oil stock...hoping it jumps! We are hoping to double our money that we put in the spring, we will see. You can forget about it! LOL! Bush and his croanies are out of the White House! Obama is in there now and he's going to clean all that corruption up (with the Oil Companies getting Multi-Billion Dollar tax breaks and fraudently reporting it as income to increase their stock values!)! I think you should invest in Solar Panels. ;D
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Post by Cepha on May 14, 2009 12:01:15 GMT -5
I was taught by my parents to work hard for everything you get. I dont think anything should be for free! Food, shelter?? Are you kidding me? If everything was free then no one would work. Well, I follow Jesus. And Jesus taught us to care for the less fortunate. And if they ask us for something, we should give it to them. Are you against Jesus on this?
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Post by emily445455 on May 14, 2009 12:01:29 GMT -5
Isn't the whole concept of "people who can, but don't work shouldn't be taken care of" a Biblical concept? Maybe not...but I thought I read it somewhere.
People who can't work should be taken care of, it is not their fault. But people who can but don't....I don't think so, they are just being lazy.
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Post by Cepha on May 14, 2009 12:32:46 GMT -5
Isn't the whole concept of "people who can, but don't work shouldn't be taken care of" a Biblical concept? Maybe not...but I thought I read it somewhere. People who can't work should be taken care of, it is not their fault. But people who can but don't....I don't think so, they are just being lazy. Absolutely. People who work but don't aren't supposed to be taken care of. But Republicans don't want to help anybody but big business (their biggest constituency). Notice? They never talked about "the middle class" during the Reagan/Bush/Bush years? All of a sudden, Republicans are for the middle class. What a coincidence...when only 26% of the country considers themselves Republican. All of a sudden, they care about the middle class. They didn't care when they de-regulated Big Business and allowed them to run crazy without government intervention to protect the middle class from them. See, Republicans don't want to share. They just want to work, make money and pay no taxes. They don't want to chip in and contribute to the care of the country. All they want is tax breaks, tax breaks, tax breaks. So, who's supposed to pay for our military men and women? Who's supposed to pay for our national defense? Who's supposed to pay for the care of the forests and our national parks? If we have money to bail out Wall Street, we should have money to bail out the working class of this country and to take care of the lesser fortunate. That is the Christian way.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 14, 2009 12:48:04 GMT -5
I think you have it backwards...republicans are for small businesses, you know like your mom and pop stores. The ones that make good money but not too much to call themselves multi millionairs.
Thanks Em. I believe that people that are not capable of working due to handicap should be taken care of, i just dont think it would be fair if Wes quit his job just to be lazy and we could collect foodstamps and medicaid and free housing. NOPE, not my idea of the AMERICAN DREAM.
I plan on investing some in solar energy as well, or wind energy. LOVE THE IDEA! But in texas and especially my part of tx, hard working middleclass families depend on the oil business. Do you not care about all of us?
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Post by teresahrc on May 14, 2009 13:14:10 GMT -5
Who thought of that? I'm 100% with it. There should be no tax on regular food. But I am highly in favor of a "junk food" tax.
There are people in Southern West Virginia that drink mostly Mountain Dew. Most of them have terrible cavities of course. The main reasons are because the tap water there is not safe, and because Milk and other healthy drinks are too expensive.
We have high tax on cigarettes, why not have a high tax on other things that are killing people--like sugar.
peace
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Post by teresahrc on May 14, 2009 13:16:17 GMT -5
Another thing that needs to be done immediately is to set up the same kind of recycling system that is in place in Michigan (I lived there for 6 winters). You pay a 10 cent deposit on every bottle, can etc. and then you bring it back to the store and get the money back. EVERYONE recycled in Michigan and homeless people even made a living by gathering the cans off the side of the road.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on May 14, 2009 13:19:42 GMT -5
Do you have a clue of how many food items have sugar in them? What about candy? What about things with high colesteral? Why are they not taxing these items?
They are choosing sodas because EVERYONE drinks them and they can get the most money out of it. The government cannot fix obesity...it starts with good parenting. That is what i dislike about the government, they are not the solution to all our problems and dont need to be. I mean really..
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