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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 16:15:51 GMT -5
Would you say that you "need" to study with others to get "more" out of The Bible alone? No. I just prefer to study with other people. Didn't you say that alone, you get enough, but that with others, you get more? And if you don't need them, then why aren't you getting more "without" them? |
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 11, 2008 16:17:38 GMT -5
I get more out of studying the Bible because it's a bunch of brains studying a certain verse, book, whatever instead of just my brain. They may know verses that explain another verse that I don't know. Things like that. I also think it's important to study the Bible with other people so you don't start making things up that aren't there...privately interpretting.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 16:19:53 GMT -5
I get more out of studying the Bible because it's a bunch of brains studying a certain verse, book, whatever instead of just my brain. They may know verses that explain another verse that I don't know. Things like that. I also think it's important to study the Bible with other people so you don't start making things up that aren't there...privately interpretting. Isn't "more" of the Word of God much better than just "enough"? And if your answer is yes, isn't learning The Word of God from others contradictory to "not" accepting the teachings of men concerning the Word of God? |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 17:15:01 GMT -5
No. I just prefer to study with other people. You said you get " more" with others. You only get " enough" studying by yourself. You don't think that getting more of God's Word is better than just enough? According to you, enough is not enough for you...so you study to get more. And because you get more because you study with others, then your church's teaching that the Bible alone is sufficient for all personal revelation is false. At least that is, for you. You need a group for you to get more. By yourself, all you can muster is enough. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 17:18:48 GMT -5
Emily,
Somehow, the post you put up saying the following got deleted.
It was my mistake. I hit the modify button instead of the reply button by mistake. Please forgive me. But, I'm posting it here so that it is known that this was your post and that it was to that post that I was replying to.
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 11, 2008 17:37:38 GMT -5
Studying the Bible is enough...a huge blessing, you can be an outstanding follower and server of Christ without ever going to church/bible studies, etc. I choose to study with others because they are more mature in studying the Word of God. I don't think me personally would be a very good Christian without studying the Bible with others, I have and would twist Scripture to fit what I wanted it to mean. Studying with others prevents me from doing that.
So...one can study the Bible by themselves and be just fine. I choose to study with others. Personal perogative.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 18:22:32 GMT -5
Enough for what? Right now, there are Catholics that are reading what you just wrote and are jumping up and down in their chairs. That's precisely one of the main reasons of The Protestant Reformation attempt. What you haven't realized (and I'm sure your Protestant colleagues saw this one coming from a mile away) I've been getting you to verbalize the universal Christian position on why we need to be taught The Bible by those chosen by God: Acts 8: 26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. 27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, 28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. 29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. 30
And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
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And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. And this is precisely why Catholics believe all true Christians are Catholic in their hearts...because the truths we share are universal truths (Catholic truths). This is why we don't exclude any other Christians from The Body of Christ like you do Emily. You're more Catholic than you know. You use 66 of our books. You've experienced what The Catholic Church and The Bible teaches regarding the guidance offered by others. 
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 11, 2008 19:12:56 GMT -5
Why would Catholics be jumping up and down in their chairs...?
Nice verse. I guess it is important for learned men of the Bible and chosen by God to help teach people about the Bible.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 11, 2008 19:34:08 GMT -5
Why would Catholics be jumping up and down in their chairs...? Nice verse. I guess it is important for learned men of the Bible and chosen by God to help teach people about the Bible. Why? Because...it's wonderful for us when a denominational Christian begins to think like a universal Christian. |
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 11, 2008 19:36:23 GMT -5
I just try to follow the God and His Word...I dont care what it's labled as.
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Post by Cepha on Apr 12, 2008 16:36:40 GMT -5
Yes you do...because when it's labeled "Catholic" you automatically "don't" believe it. But when it's taught under a different label, then you accept it. Take your bible for example...if you were reading a Bible for all Christians, you wouldn't have a problem until you were told that it was a universal Christian Bible. You only read a denominational version of The Holy Bible. You won't pick up a universal Christian Bible. Why? Because it has the label of being universal (for all Christians, not just for the minority of Christians). I'm not beating you over the head with this, just pointing out the places where you want to have things your way instead of having it the way it's always been. |
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Post by emily445455 on Apr 12, 2008 20:46:38 GMT -5
What is a universal christian bible?
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Post by Cepha on Apr 12, 2008 21:01:29 GMT -5
What is a universal christian bible? The universal Christian Bible is The Holy Bible (not a "version" of it, but the original). The reason that the KJV is called a "version" is because it is a "version" of The Original (not The Original). If it was The Original, it wouldn't be called a "version". ver·sion –noun 1. a particular account of some matter, as from one person or source, contrasted with some other account: two different versions of the accident. 2. a particular form or variant of something: a modern version of an antique. 3. a translation. 4. (often initial capital letter) a translation of the Bible or a part of it. 5. Medicine/Medical. the act of turning a child in the uterus so as to bring it into a more favorable position for delivery. 6. Pathology. an abnormal direction of the axis of the uterus or other organ. The universal Bible is the original Bible...The Holy Bible. Universal because it is for all Christians universally. It wasn't created by a denomination of Christianity, but is the first Holy Bible ever created (397 A.D.) created "by" Christianity. When it was created, there were no denominations of Christianity. Just The Universal Christian Church. |
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Post by alfie on Apr 21, 2008 21:42:29 GMT -5
No, they don't belittle Mary, they only kill christians in the name of allah.  Why don't you start up a thread on killing in the name of God? I definately think that that would be an appropriate place for a sentiment like that. Of course, you do know that we will also have to answer for the times that Christians have killed in the name of God as well. But hey...I'm all open to discuss that. This thread is for what we share with them. They love Mary. And believe it or not, they have a great deal of respect for Catholic Christians. They really have no beef with us. If we look at recent history (over the past hundred years or so), they've had no reason to hate us specifically out of Christianity. And true Muslims don't believe what radical Muslims preach. Just like Christianity, there are the tried and true Christians and Muslims and then there are the fundamentalist Christians and Muslims. I doubt highly that those same Muslims that kill Christians love Mary anyway. Further evidence that we are headed for a one world religion under the control of the Vatican. The only thing that stands in the way of it are Evangelicals which the Roman Catholic church fears more than any power on earth. Probably in my lifetime I will be hunted down by the Catholic Church and killed. God give me the courage to stay the course and be a witness to all of the unsaved and deceived people. |
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Post by Cepha on Apr 21, 2008 22:07:48 GMT -5
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Apr 21, 2008 22:18:51 GMT -5
Please, you seriously need to get a grip on reality, you have fallen off the deep end. I cant believe people like this actually existed. Boy was i wrong.  |
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