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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 13:47:51 GMT -5
"The hidden things belong to the Lord, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children" (Deuteronomy I think)
If every one of them were written down,
I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 13:48:37 GMT -5
Eh? Or are they in prison/paradise? LOL. And why would people that abided by God's laws and pleased Him be in heaven before they heard the gospel? That goes against the 5 solas! LOL! No, they were "chosen" first! LOL! |
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 8, 2009 13:52:51 GMT -5
I would love to know all the other things Jesus did and said!
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 13:53:17 GMT -5
The fact remains He will not change His mind, . How do you know He will not change His mind? |
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Post by alfie on Jun 8, 2009 13:53:58 GMT -5
Plenty of Jews owned slaves. The only thing God says about slavery is that owners are not to abuse them. Also slaves are supposed to submit graciously to their masters. Yeah, like Christians did in America. How is a racial issue "not" a racial issue? I mean, you DID say you don't believe in interracial marriage, right? What else could that be based on if "not" race? You don't have to take my word for it... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-CatholicismAnd, it's still going on today in Northern Ireland. It is estimated that close to 50 million protestants died at the hands of the Catholic church but I must forgive the CC because that is a commandment from God. The Lord said vengence is mine so someday those Catholics will be brought to justice. arcticbeacon.com/books/Plaisted-Estimates_Number_Killed_by_the_Papacy-2006.pdf |
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Post by alfie on Jun 8, 2009 13:56:01 GMT -5
I would love to know all the other things Jesus did and said! Well, for right now God has given us all He wants us to know about Him in the Bible. |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 13:58:18 GMT -5
What does this have to do with Catholic Persecution by Protestants in The United States which you didn't believe was true? LOL! ArticBeacon? Tell you what, quote a "non-biased" secular source like I did!  |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 14:01:18 GMT -5
I would love to know all the other things Jesus did and said! Well, for right now God has given us all He wants us to know about Him in the Bible. I agree with that 101%. |
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Post by alfie on Jun 8, 2009 14:15:37 GMT -5
What does this have to do with Catholic Persecution by Protestants in The United States which you didn't believe was true? LOL! ArticBeacon? Tell you what, quote a "non-biased" secular source like I did! You are always bringing up Northern Ireland. England (when it was Catholic) before it became Protestant always treated Ireland like crap. Read some European history. When Europe was Catholic you had one war after another between Catholic countries. |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 14:20:16 GMT -5
You are always bringing up Northern Ireland. England (when it was Catholic) before it became Protestant always treated Ireland like crap. That was then. This is now. Currently, the only Christian upon Christian persecution is being done by Protestants to Catholics. You too. Then you'll find out about how Protestants killed 100 times more people through the Witch Hunts than all the Inquisitions combined. And, what do you think about the 30 Years War? Or The Consistory (Protestant's own "Inquisition")? |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 8, 2009 14:46:26 GMT -5
Steven, I want to have a baby even though I know full well s/he will do things wrong and make me upset throughout their lives.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 14:54:41 GMT -5
Steven, I want to have a baby even though I know full well s/he will do things wrong and make me upset throughout their lives. If you knew your baby was going to be born to die and to suffer eternally and you had the choice to "not" bring it in (to not get pregnant), would you still bring that baby in the world to suffer? |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 8, 2009 14:56:34 GMT -5
We are all born to die. But yes, I would, I wouldn't be forcing them to suffer, it would be their choice. Plus, God knew He would provide a way for them to be with Him.
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Post by watchman on Jun 8, 2009 15:09:52 GMT -5
Well it's what we deserve  Who says people before Christ are in hell? Well at least the ones who abided by God's laws and wanted to please Him. Forget "hell" the place for now. Let's stick with just eternal death (separation from God) for the sake of the discussion. Do you think that God planned for us to sin or that He created us knowing we'd sin? If He did, why did He show wrath when mankind sinned during Noah's time then regret when He destroyed the earth with water promising never to do it again? He knew we would sin, that is why He planned our redemption before He even created us. |
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Post by watchman on Jun 8, 2009 15:12:08 GMT -5
The fact remains He will not change His mind, . How do you know He will not change His mind? Because His word declares it. I really do not know what God you serve. The god of catholicism or some god you have created in your own mind, but my God is the God of the Bible and My God stands by what He has said whether it is a promise of good or a declaration of destruction. |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 8, 2009 16:29:30 GMT -5
Amen, Joey.
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 8, 2009 17:03:04 GMT -5
Is every though or every idea that enters the mind a "promise"? Then why do you assume that everything God thinks or wills is a promise?
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 8, 2009 17:43:12 GMT -5
Heather, when God says something, He will not back out of it.
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 8, 2009 17:47:30 GMT -5
I know that Emily. I agree. But God doesn't tell us everything He thinks.
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 8, 2009 17:49:41 GMT -5
How do you know He will not change His mind? Because His word declares it. I really do not know what God you serve. The god of catholicism or some god you have created in your own mind, but my God is the God of the Bible and My God stands by what He has said whether it is a promise of good or a declaration of destruction. EEEk. There is only one God period. One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism. If you detest the Catholic Church so much, why do you keep coming back here? I think it's cute. |
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