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Post by emily445455 on Jun 5, 2009 21:58:11 GMT -5
Well there are such things as Pro-life democrats. There are probably other Pro-____ and Anti-_____ Dems.
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Post by watchman on Jun 5, 2009 22:07:34 GMT -5
Well there are such things as Pro-life democrats. There are probably other Pro-____ and Anti-_____ Dems. Well that is not a FULL FLEDGE democrate, if they are pro life anti gay marriage ect... |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 5, 2009 22:35:24 GMT -5
I agree, Joey.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 6, 2009 0:17:10 GMT -5
yeah, i dont agree with everything the republican party does...but most. Just like being Catholic, I agree with most of the doctrin exept the laws of the church...i feel they are man made.
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 6, 2009 0:20:20 GMT -5
what CC???
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 6, 2009 0:21:53 GMT -5
Remember the whole thing with Jesus and St. Peter? And Jesus gave St. Peter the authority to bind and loose?
Those are the laws of the church, and are not man -made because the authority came from Jesus.
Or is the real reason because you personally don't like some of the "Church laws"?
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Post by Cepha on Jun 6, 2009 9:38:13 GMT -5
All Judges are scrutinized before the are seated. How many were called racist? Justice Alito said the exact same thing about his Italian heritage. Not ONE Republican said anything about it. In fact, when these statements were presented before she could be appointed to a federal court, not ONE Republican said anything about it back then. Besides, what she said is true...a Hispanic woman could make a more informed decision than a non-Hispanci person (be they white, black, asian, male, whatever) from the point of view of their experience. Judge Alito literally said that HIS own experiences with the bigotry and racism that Italians faced would influence his decisions. Where was all the Republican outcry then? Why didn't they call the "White" guy a racist?  |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 6, 2009 9:45:11 GMT -5
Marcie, Yeah I don't know very much about certain topics. But I know about some topics...like abortion, gay marriage, immigration, Israel, etc. All of these topics you just mention the democrates are on the opposite side of God (except maybe immigration) yet cepha claims to be a full fledged born again democrate. That means that cepha is fully fledged opposed to God on these particular issues Actually, by my own religion I am a Democrat. We believe in "sharing the wealth", in feeding the hungry, in social justice, in just wars, in sheltering the poor, in equal rights, in providing financial assistance for un-wed single mothers, etc... What we differ with The Democratic Party is on Gay Marriage (which by the way, the leader of The Republican Pary now, Dick Cheney believes in  ) and in Pro-Life issues. Other than that, The Democratic Party is closer to Universal Christianity than The Republican Party is (who believe in allowing the poor to suffer, in unjust wars, in corruption, in giving big corporations TAX FREE havens while forcing the working man to pay taxes, etc...). By the way, Gay Marriage and Abortion are "moral" issues (not political issues). No one can dictate morality in The United States. It's against The Constitution. ;D And, while The Republican Party had 100% control of The Government for 6 years straight (there's that tricky number again...part of that "666"), they didn't ban abortion. In fact, it was The Republican Party that legalized abortion in the 70's. AND...now under a completely controlled Democratic Government! More people (51%)are now Pro-Life!Obama! Obama! Obama! |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 6, 2009 9:48:39 GMT -5
Well there are such things as Pro-life democrats. There are probably other Pro-____ and Anti-_____ Dems. Abortion is an issue that has no party or political affiliation. You are so right Em. The fact is, all Pro-Lifers need to get together (both Rep and Dem) and work to end abortion by law and by practice. I'd say that the majority of Dems are not pro-abortion, but pro-choice (which is stupid anyway...it's a wussy way of trying to say you don't want to stop it). I'd say that the majority of Reps are pro-life when it comes to abortion only and stem cell research. I think that's fair to say. But now, Thank God, most Americans see themselves as Pro-Life! And if we Get Judge Sonia Sotomayor (a Pro-Life Catholic!) on the bench, we just might have the power to overturn Roe V. Wade and legally END abortion! ;D |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 6, 2009 9:49:36 GMT -5
Well there are such things as Pro-life democrats. There are probably other Pro-____ and Anti-_____ Dems. Well that is not a FULL FLEDGE democrate, if they are pro life anti gay marriage ect... You're doing the same with politics that you do with religion...try to tell people what they believe or what they are...just like The Pharisees. No wonder you use The Pharisees Canon over The Christian Canon. |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 6, 2009 9:51:58 GMT -5
yeah, i dont agree with everything the republican party does...but most. Just like being Catholic, I agree with most of the doctrin exept the laws of the church...i feel they are man made. You need to be Catechized seriously. You have absolutely no knowledge of how the Church came about it's Doctrine with that statement you just made. First of all, Priests are separated from common "man". Whatever they do is not man made, but done by Priests. The Doctrines, the teachings, the creation of The Bible, etc... What you "feel" and what actually "is" are two different realities. Have you done your Confirmation yet CC? |
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Post by watchman on Jun 6, 2009 11:18:18 GMT -5
All of these topics you just mention the democrates are on the opposite side of God (except maybe immigration) yet cepha claims to be a full fledged born again democrate. That means that cepha is fully fledged opposed to God on these particular issues Actually, by my own religion I am a Democrat. We believe in "sharing the wealth", in feeding the hungry, in social justice, in just wars, in sheltering the poor, in equal rights, in providing financial assistance for un-wed single mothers, etc... Murdering the innocent, promoting sinful, unnatural, immoral lust, and hating God's chosen nation. That is what Catholicism has taught you to do? |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 6, 2009 11:21:03 GMT -5
Actually, by my own religion I am a Democrat. We believe in "sharing the wealth", in feeding the hungry, in social justice, in just wars, in sheltering the poor, in equal rights, in providing financial assistance for un-wed single mothers, etc... Murdering the innocent, promoting sinful, unnatural, immoral lust, and hating God's chosen nation. That is what Catholicism has taught you to do? No. Where did you retrieve that from? |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 6, 2009 12:06:18 GMT -5
Marcie, it makes me happy to hear you say that  er, type that. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 6, 2009 18:59:58 GMT -5
well, i just think it is ok to use bc and get married at the courthouse, i believe heavily on the death penalty.... sorry guys its just my opinion!
No, never made my confirmation and dont plan on it, cause im shy lol
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 6, 2009 19:01:04 GMT -5
What's a confirmation? I believe in the death penalty as well. Well, I try to anyways...since it is Biblical.
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Post by watchman on Jun 6, 2009 20:37:11 GMT -5
Confirmation is a catholic ritual (also done by some ''cath-like'' protestants such as Lutheran ect...). They are baptized as an infant and then confirm (at a certain age 12, or 13, or 14 something like that) That Jesus is their Savior.
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 6, 2009 21:53:52 GMT -5
Thanks, Joey.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 10:35:39 GMT -5
well, i just think it is ok to use bc and get married at the courthouse, i believe heavily on the death penalty.... sorry guys its just my opinion! No, never made my confirmation and dont plan on it, cause im shy lol The Church is against The Death Penalty except in the most extreme cases. As for BC, to each his/her own and I understand your reasonings for it. And thou must maketh thine Confirmation Marcie! I'll be your "sponsor" when you're ready! ;D |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 8, 2009 10:41:57 GMT -5
What's a confirmation? I believe in the death penalty as well. Well, I try to anyways...since it is Biblical. Confirmation...one of the "rites" of universal Christianity which is based on one attaining The Holy Spirit after making their proclamation to become a Christian (ala' Book of Acts). It's a traditional Christian practice. ScriptureActs 8:14-17 - the people of Samaria were baptized in Christ, but did not receive the fullness of the Spirit until they were confirmed by the elders. Confirmation is a sacrament that Jesus Christ instituted within His Catholic Church to further strengthen those who have reached adulthood.
Acts 19:5-6 - the people of Ephesus were baptized in Christ, but Paul laid hands on them to seal them with the Holy Spirit. This sealing refers to the sacrament of confirmation.
Eph. 1:13 - Paul writes that the baptized Ephesians were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, in reference to confirmation.
Eph. 4:30 - Paul says the Ephesians were sealed in the Holy Spirit of God, in reference to the sealing of confirmation.
Heb. 6:2 - Paul gives instruction to the Hebrews about the laying on of hands, in reference to confirmation, not ordination. The early Church laid hands upon the confirmand to administer the sacrament of confirmation.
Heb. 6:2 - this verse also refers to the cycle of life and its relationship to the sacraments - baptism, confirmation, death and judgment - which apply to all people.
John 6:27 - Jesus says the Father has set His seal on Him. As the Father sets His seal on Jesus, so Jesus sets His seal on us on the sacrament of baptism, and later, in the sacrament of confirmation.
Rev. 9:4 - the locusts could not harm those with the seal of God upon their foreheads. See also Rev. 14:1 and 22:4. |
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