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Post by Cepha on Jun 24, 2009 12:48:21 GMT -5
Methodism...what is the history of this American religion?
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 24, 2009 12:49:25 GMT -5
I used to know, but I don't remember. I think I learned it during confirmation.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 24, 2009 12:51:10 GMT -5
I used to know, but I don't remember. I think I learned it during confirmation. Supposedly, Methodists are very Anti-Catholic, but their founder was very Pro-Catholic. I just wanted to see how they justify their Anti-Catholicism when their founder was not like that.  |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 24, 2009 12:57:01 GMT -5
The Methodist church I went to when I was younger wasn't anti- or pro- anything really. They're just.....a blah church. A luke-warm church.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 24, 2009 13:00:50 GMT -5
The Methodist church I went to when I was younger wasn't anti- or pro- anything really. They're just.....a blah church. A luke-warm church. Wait a minute, so you WERE something else before you became a baptist! Ahhhaaah! So, you "changed your belief"! LOL! Remember the other thread? Where you said you're not supposed to change your beleif? LOL What's up with that? LOL |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 24, 2009 13:05:20 GMT -5
I didn't change my beliefs, I changed churches where the Word of God is believed and taught. At the Methodist church, that wasn't happening.
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Post by Cepha on Jun 24, 2009 13:07:49 GMT -5
I didn't change my beliefs, I changed churches where the Word of God is believed and taught. At the Methodist church, that wasn't happening. So, you still believe "in" Methodism? |
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Post by Cepha on Jun 24, 2009 13:42:56 GMT -5
John Wesley, Religious Bigotry and a Catholic Spirit
John Wesley's Sermons on Religious Bigotry
John Wesley differentiated between essential beliefs and nonessential beliefs which he called "opinions." He believed that Christians should be unified in love but need not have identical beliefs or practice identical rituals.
In his sermon on "Catholic Spirit" he said:
"But although a difference in opinions or modes of worship may prevent an entire external union, yet need it prevent our union in affection?
Though we cannot think alike, may we not love alike?
May we not be of one heart, though we are not of one opinion?
Without all doubt, we may.
Herein all the children of God may unite, notwithstanding these smaller differences.
These remaining as they are, they may forward one another in love and in good works."
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 24, 2009 13:50:18 GMT -5
So, you still believe "in" Methodism? I believe in God's Word. After I got Saved and figured out that this church wasn't teaching Jesus and His Word, I left. I probably should have tried to work it out before I just left, but I didn't know I should do that at that time. |
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Post by alfie on Jun 24, 2009 14:16:17 GMT -5
Went to Bible study at my Methodist church today and the pastor informed us that the United Methodist Church may be splitting into different branches due to the differences between Christian Methodists and non-Christian Methodists.
So rejoice Cepha!
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Post by Ramon on Jun 24, 2009 14:25:51 GMT -5
Methodism, like all other Protestant sects, was started by a man. Much of the Methodist theology comes from the reformer John Wesley. Although many Methodist, such as Alfie, like to boast about the Protestant Reformers, including John Wesley, in reality they reject many of there teachings, those which are "Pro-Catholic/Orthodox". In essence, though, the Methodist Church has not kept the faith of the Holy Apostles and the Ancient Fathers. They have subtracted from the Ancient Faith, just like there founder, John Wesley, did.
I have one Methodist Church near my area. Visited once, but it was enough to let me know it wasn't the Apostolic Church. This was the time of my life when I was searching for the Apostolic Church. I only witness Pop-Evangelical theology, but not the Faith of the Ancient Fathers.
I have nothing against the Methodist Church, just there misguided views. The History of the Methodist Church is very unique. It is one of very few Protestant Churches that, can in some sense, trace there lineages, back to the Reformers. I have met many nice Methodist people.
In IC.XC,
Ramon
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Post by Ramon on Jun 24, 2009 14:27:41 GMT -5
Went to Bible study at my Methodist church today and the pastor informed us that the United Methodist Church may be splitting into different branches due to the differences between Christian Methodists and non-Christian Methodists. So rejoice Cepha! LOL! Splits after splits! Since the 16th Century, the Western Churches has been splinting into "sub churches". It's sad really. What will Cepha rejoice? He should be sadden! Rejoice, when Western Protestant Churches are splitting more? That was Satan plan from the get-go! I am not rejoicing, I am rather praying for the Protestant churches. In IC.XC, Ramon |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 24, 2009 14:46:04 GMT -5
Alfie, I don't understand "Christian Methodists and non-Christian Methodists".
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Post by Ramon on Jun 24, 2009 14:48:50 GMT -5
Alfie, I don't understand "Christian Methodists and non-Christian Methodists". Me either! I am assuming "Christian Methodists" are just the group of Methodist who believes the other Methodists are wrong, and thus "Non-Christian Methodist". The other "Non-Christian Methodist" perhaps believe they are Christians and the other Methodist group is not. I don't know, in all honesty. In IC.XC, Ramon |
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Post by emily445455 on Jun 24, 2009 15:06:13 GMT -5
The only thing I can think of is that some Methodists believe in things that make them more like a cult than a Christian sect...like Mormons or something.
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Jun 24, 2009 19:59:39 GMT -5
I know nothing about methodists. I did however attend preschool as a child at their church and LOVED IT. The inside of the church was pretty too. Thats all i know though
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Post by Ramon on Jun 24, 2009 20:02:59 GMT -5
I will like to note the following: Many Methodist Churches worship liturgically, having prescribed liturgical texts, and used liturgical terms (such as "advent", "Lent", and "Feast"). You will find very diverse Methodist worship, so not all worship the same way, but there are some Methodist regulations as to what a Methodist worship should contain. There are, however, some Methodist liturgical books available. I don't find this odd since the founder of the Methodist Church was a Anglican Priest. Concerning the Sacraments (a word they even used), the Methodist Church stands outside the common Protestant realm, although not quite in line with Catholic/Orthodox teachings. Here is a official Methodist perspective on Holy Baptism ( www.gbod.org/homepage/new_home/baptism/page_1.htm), and Holy Communion ( www.gbod.org/worship/thisholymystery/default.html). Concerning the Holy Communion, the Methodist Church do not follow the Zwinglian view, after Huldrych Zwingli, a Swiss leader during the Reformation. They practice Infant Baptism (John Wesley, the founder of Methodism maintained the Anglican view that baptism regenerates the infant) and allowed all children (from every age) to participate in the Holy Communion (a echo to the Orthodox practice). I find this all very interesting! In IC.XC, Ramon |
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 24, 2009 20:09:59 GMT -5
That sounds kinda like what happened in michigan. There was the reformed church (Dutch) but smething happened because some of the split away into the Christian reformed church. I've heard that only insiders can tell what the differences are.
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Post by Ramon on Jun 24, 2009 21:31:47 GMT -5
That sounds kinda like what happened in michigan. There was the reformed church (Dutch) but smething happened because some of the split away into the Christian reformed church. I've heard that only insiders can tell what the differences are. Some splits within Christian churches occur over silly situations and not necessary doctrinal differences. In IC.XC, Ramon |
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Post by teresahrc on Jun 24, 2009 22:48:53 GMT -5
I think it had something to do with pastors wearing robes or something. not sure
But what I always wonder about is why do all these Church splits happen in America? Why are there so many new denominations created here? It's kind of weird. Why isn't the same thing happening in other countries?
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