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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Feb 5, 2009 1:25:15 GMT -5
If nancy cant count, she is really not qualified for her job. I think it was a scare tactic. But if it was not, yeah she is an idiot.
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Post by Jimmy B. on Feb 5, 2009 1:30:55 GMT -5
Hey buddy, I like the new web picture. Listen... the story was reported by CNN and that is the video that I posted.  You can't fault me for pointing out a mathematical fact.... ;D You are not trying to silence the truth...are you?  |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Feb 5, 2009 1:37:33 GMT -5
no he is deflecting it by laughing about you pointing it out.  |
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Post by Jimmy B. on Feb 5, 2009 1:38:12 GMT -5
Cepha, You know that I like you... but you have to admit that President Obama's first three weeks, hasn't been what one would expect, from the "Anointed One", as described by the liberal media. This is what you get, when you elect as President, a young and inexperienced, Junior Senator. You get a lot of mistakes. Yep, 3 weeks... and to use his own words, he has "screwed up". All of those, who have voted for him, have "screwed up". He will continue to "screw-up", because he is "in over his head". He doesn't know what he is doing and isn't confident enough to say "No" to his own Party. Prior to Obama being elected, Senator Biden, when referring to Obama, said that the Presidency is not supposed to be "on the job training" and that the person seeking the office of President, should be "ready to lead". Obama wasn’t "ready to lead". I was shocked, when I heard Obama tell Anderson Cooper of CNN, that he “screwed up, and that he was “learning as he goes”, describing his experience as President, as “on the job training”, what a joke. I guess Sen. Biden (now Vice President Biden) was right. Vice President Biden, Hillary Clinton and others act as if they think, all if this, is a big Joke. This is serious business and these people should be acting like serious professionals. This, unprofessionalism was apparent when he (Biden), swore-in Sen. Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, as they were all giggling and acting like little kids. This shows us that they may have the “experience” but lack the professionalism, maturity, and leadership qualities, one would expect from persons holding high office. The recent actions of President Obama and his people are embarrassing. Sen. Tom Daschle’s recent withdrawal , because of “tax problems” and his “lobbying” history … and Obama’s, alleged “high standards”… are a joke, especially when considering; Obama , last week, appointed Timothy Geithner as Treasury Secretary and the Democratically controlled Senate, confirmed Mr. Geithner, knowing that Geithner had the same issues as Sen. Daschle and Nancy Killefer. Kilefer made the same withdrawal request, as Daschle, for similar reasons. This inconsistent behavior by the President, is disconcerting and is just one more example that Obama doesn’t have the leadership qualities, experience or maturity needed to be President. His first three weeks in office, have been a joke…and you voted for him. As for, all of President Obama’s recent "screw ups", in his first 3 weeks in office; I thought the reason President Obama selected Sen. Biden as Vice President, was because Sen. Biden had “experience”. Other than “swearing people in”, where is Vice President Biden? Why hasn't, his so-called "experience” help prevent President Obama from making so many "bush league" mistakes? President Obama acts and talks like a "sergeant" might...a beginner when it comes to leadership...when he is the President and the Commander and Chief and should be acting like the Leader of the Free World. By his actions and speak, it is evident that he (Obama) is indecisive, inexperienced and immature. I talk about the future - 2012, because this is the only comfort I have; knowing that a President's term, is limited to four years....even though, in his interview with Anderson Cooper, of CNN, Obama alluded to "Six" and "Eleven" years"... He apparently thinks that a Presidential term is "Five years". This guy needs to go back to the minor leagues where he belongs. Then again, he is acting like the young, inexperienced, indecisive and immature Junior Senator that you helped to elect.
4 more years!
4 more years!  ;D Cepha,
You're bad... 
A lot can happen in four years. For example, I suspect that you will see the truth well before then and become a conservative Republican.
Please try again...thank you!  |
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Post by Jimmy B. on Feb 5, 2009 1:44:23 GMT -5
no he is deflecting it by laughing about you pointing it out. Yep, I consider that a non-answer or being non-responsive... |
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Post by Jimmy B. on Feb 5, 2009 1:47:23 GMT -5
If nancy cant count, she is really not qualified for her job. I think it was a scare tactic. But if it was not, yeah she is an idiot. Lol.... ;D |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 2:02:32 GMT -5
ow..."only" 2/3's of the country still find his work favorable. ( what with the hype of BHO being the Saviour of the USA his numbers are sliding faster then most peoples New Years Resolutions) Another "one" calling President Hussein "Jesus".  (Notice the "saviour" with the capitol "S" showing divinity) Well, just remember, he is your President. So instead of just addressing him as BHO (for Barack HUSSEIN Obama), you should refer to him as "President Barack HUSSEIN Obama". And don't forget...there's always Canada.  It's so funny how they (the RWE's) loved calling him "Hussein" before...why aren't they calling him President Hussein now? LOL! Barack Akbar! Barack Akbar! Barack Akbar! |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 2:11:30 GMT -5
[ LOL... ;D Cepha,
You're bad...
A lot can happen in four years. For example, I suspect that you will see the truth well before then and become a conservative Republican.
Please try again...thank you! Coulda' woulda' shoulda'! LOL! You're still living in the future. Don't worry about it. Exist in the hear and now, but I know you won't because in the here and now, you'd have to deal with the reality that President Hussein is running stuff! This is sooo 90's when you guys shot down the most successful President of modern times (Bill Clinton) who took us out of that Bush I Recession. Now, there's another Democrat with Clinton's team plus the best Republicans have to offer working "with" him to take us out of the mess that Bush II put us in. The thing with you and those like you is that the more President Hussein succeeds, the more despair you preach (this is going to happen, just you wait! he is going to fail! you'll see!). That's like throwing a tomatoe at Lance Armstrong when he's in the final leg of a race! LOL!  Don't you just wish that you could take a 4 year sleeping pill right about now? Ain't gonna happen! Get your Pepto Bismal ready!  |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 2:16:04 GMT -5
no he is deflecting it by laughing about you pointing it out. Yep, I consider that a non-answer or being non-responsive... Hold on! Was there even a question there? And if you want to talk about "non-answers", wait right here...I have a few questions that "you" never answered... BRB! ;D |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 2:19:04 GMT -5
Hey buddy, I like the new web picture. Listen... the story was reported by CNN and that is the video that I posted. You can't fault me for pointing out a mathematical fact.... ;D You are not trying to silence the truth...are you? I have no problem with his poll numbers! He's got 2/3's of the country behind him! Still! LOL! And as far as truth goes...YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! (That President Hussein was chosen over Senator Sydney!)  |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 3:03:55 GMT -5
[/color])[/quote] How can one promise to end abortion when he said he'd never repeal Roe V Wade? R U serious? How do you reconcile the two? That's one heck of a magic trick if he could've pulled it off. When was this added to a President's responsibilities? I don't get you...honestly. You say that life and justice are not the government's responsibility, right? But you say that morals and ethical limits are. Right? In the real world...it's the complete opposite. It's religious leaders who are supposed to guide our morals and ethics and secular leaders who handle the physical life issues along with serving justice in the world. That sounds like a quote from Bizarro World where everything is backwards. Try reading something other than the Right Wing Extremists Conspiracy Emails and maybe you won't slander our President next time... Check "this" out: www.csmonitor.com/2008/0702/p25s10-uspo.htmlAnd by the way...you lieing about President Hussein is "anti-Christian". Can't you read English? I said clearly that it's wrong to vote for him if it's because of his abortion stance. (and you people wonder why I have to keep repeating myself... ) Ohhh! The lesser of two evils concept! Nope...does'nt work. You are either evil or not. Both are evil in their Pro-Choice stances and only President Hussein sought to bring peace to us with our enemies (something Jesus would soundly approve of) and only President Hussein sought to bring back balance to the ecomony that John McCain wanted to continue to fund Big Businesses and Corporations while leaving the working man with nothing the way Bush did... Only President Hussein wants to bring about Social Justice and to end the illegal occupation of the sovereign natioin of Iraq while McCain was ready and chompin' at the bit to "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb...Bomb, Bomb Iran!" As a former Soldier, we were taught to never make fun of war! It's a serious matter! People die! Mother's Cry! God gets upset! And McCain wanted to continue the war that The Catholic Church's representative soundly denounced and called "unjust". Ok, once again class...on three..."Because this is a Protestant Country and they don't have the morals of Catholics." There. "felt"? We still have people like them today. Their called "Conservatives". They believe that everybody should think, eat, dress and march like them. That's why their a dieing breed and their party does "not" represent the true American public. That's "WHY" they lost. America threw the bums out.  Amen to that! We're on board there! You want to blame somebody? Blame all those people who were pro-choice that voted for him. Take away Obama's Pro-Life vote and he still would've won. Remember, only 30% of Catholics here are devout and they went to McCain along with 18% of the non-Devout Catholics. I'd say Obama got very few Devout Catholic votes who mainly came from different backgrounds than the white-middle class-suburban crowd that voted for The Republicans. I wouldn't say that I personally hate him (because we are called to hate the sin, but to love the sinner), but I definitely hate his sinful views and acts. Really? Do you have any proof that this is what President Hussein wants? Because if you can prove what you just accused him of, I'd drop him like a hot potatoe. If you can't, then you will have to face Jesus and be judged for your slandering him. And again (read my signature)... Hey, that's funny coming from the same person who just said she hated Obama...I never said I hated McCain. Wow...you're a big time case of the pot calling the kettle black. As for me and babies dieing? Trust me, despite what you may have heard about my prowess with the ladies, I didnt have anything to do with any baby dieing post the elections. I'm a literally celibate. This is "my" choice, so I ain't getting no one pregnant (unless we're married, then I'm going to try to have my own baseball team! LOL! ). And God bless you sister of mine. |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 3:34:04 GMT -5
As an Illinoisan, I can tell you that Obama is very pro-abortion. He goes beyond being pro choice. He voted in the Illinois senate to allow partial birth abortion with no restriction, he said that if one of his daughters got pregnant he would not want her "punished with a baby." He was absent or voted 'present' most of his career in the Illinois senate and as our US senator he spent most of his time running for president. He should give his salary to the people of Illinois. He is an old school 'Chicago Democratic Machine' politician and the world is about to find out how politics is played in Chicago/Illinois. So far he has nominate at least 3 tax cheats to high posts in his administration and "you ain't seen nothin' yet". Remember you read it here first. So did McCain... John McCain on the Issues(Mar 2004); Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. And guess what...about 3/4's of this country cheat on their taxes. And don't forget that that's nothing compared to the most corrupt cabinet in the history of the Presidency of the United States (Bush's where 100% of his cabinet were either indicted or were forced to quit because of corruption). |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 3:36:06 GMT -5
Well I am new here and I am posting here after this got started. But, here goes. Someone asked me if a person could be pro-abortion and still be catholic. My answer was as follows. If you define catholic as just being someone that was baptized into the faith at birth. Then yes you could be both. If you define Catholic as being someone that follows the teachings of Holy Mother Church then no you can't be both. God said you can't serve two masters and as Catholics we believe that abortion is never allowed. Now this also gos for other Moral issues. If you follow what Holy Mother Church teaches then you can't support the policies that have been made in the last two weeks and two days. Funny how it has only been 16 days and many people have now found they can not support the new administration. IMHO it is going to be a long long four years. We know your personal opinion, now what does The Catholic Church say about the matter? |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 3:49:04 GMT -5
( sending more toops to Afghanistan?), Afghanistan is considered a " just war" by The Catholic Church, so yeah, send our boys there to get Bin Ladin (something Bush failed miserably at doing and even said didn't concern him much!). What response? Hey! We have another goat here! Leave the starving hungry! Remember, when you get judged, be ready to hang a left! Not singularly, but literally all of the issues were to be weighed. The Church even literally stated that you couldn't vote for a Pro-Life candidate who was wrong on other issues. Ahhh...again, read what the Church said...I voted for Obama's Church approved policies, not for his Church dissapproved policies. Get it right. ( so again you voted in someone that promised to make it more available and easier to get?) No...I voted for the candidate who was closer to The Church in every other stance. (Is there an echo in here? LOL ) ( and even again I say you knowingly voted for the one you knew he would do as he said he did not lie he will enable many many more women to murder their children) Again, you really need to read the document on what The Church teaches...This isn't the church of Kathleene. Sorry, but it's not up to you. Bend your belief to what The Church teaches; don't try to bend what The Church teaches to your belief limitations. ( yes and you still supported him this makes you doing it with full knowledge of the murders to take place in the name of choice)Now you are slandering me and lieing about me. I never supported him on abortion. You know something? You really should become an Anti-Catholic. You have all their characteristics down. You lie. But Jesus will judge you for that, just like He will judge me and my heart knowing exactly "why" I voted for Obama. As for you? Matthew 7 K...Matthew 7.  Curious, did you vote for a man that won't repeal Roe V Wade ever had he been elected and that supports a woman's right to choose an abortion if she feels like her health is more important that The Catholic Church's teaching and if she was raped or if incest was the case? Judging me by your own standards, what would that make you? Oh wait, I forgot...The Lesser of Two Evils Voter. A Cafetiria Catholic...pick and choose what's comfortable for you according to your personal standards...while you'll happily allow the poor to starve and the wars to continue and peace with our enemies to remain a dream. |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 3:51:44 GMT -5
I posted yesterday in one of these political battle rooms that obama has given high jobs to people that are not qualified, posted the video from glen beck. Hmmm...people getting jobs their not qualified for? You mean, like Michael Steele? LMCBO! That was too easy! (By the way, their qualifications were never in question...it was their past tax discripencies...and who of us never ever cheated on anything ever before? Let them cast the first stone! LOL! ). |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 3:52:58 GMT -5
Cepha, I am just going to step in here and clear up one thing. Obama and McCain are worlds apart on the abortion issue. To begin, McCain is not pro-abortion, and never has been. He has been less aggressive in attacking abortion than other conservatives, but do not confuse this with Obama. They are completely at odds over parental notification rights, partial birth abortions, funding for abortions.... even agreeing with the decision of Roe vs. Wade and believing in abortion "rights." About the only thing he agreed with Obama on was leniency in case of rape or incest. That's a far far cry from a man who wants to bring about FOCA. See for yourself: www.selectsmart.com/president/2008/comparethem.htmlwww.ontheissues.org/default.htmWorld's? Don't you mean more like "blocks"? Hello? They both believe in murdering unborn children? There is not "almost Pro-Life"! You're either Pro-Life! Or you're not! |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 3:59:24 GMT -5
I hope you do not ban me for this, but either way it needs to be said. I always doubted your christianity because of your biblical interpretations and false beliefs, although we are not judged by our doctrine, but now seeing were and who you stand with politically, I no longer have any doubt you are no christian cepha. Wow...you just amazed us with your scriptural prowess. Do you realize that The Bible literally teaches against what you just did? While I am no where near perfect, I know this...I am no one to ever question one's relationship to God...but that's what makes you what you are...a Protestant. Now, who is more like Christ in that sentiment? The one who judges a person's relationship to God even though they are "not" God? Or the one who is humble enough to know to never ever cross that line? And I am throwing down the guantlet...pick a biblical doctrine and I'll meet you in the Debate Forum. That is, since I'm supposedly so wrong... |
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Post by Cepha on Feb 5, 2009 4:03:14 GMT -5
Yep, I consider that a non-answer or being non-responsive... Hold on! Was there even a question there? And if you want to talk about "non-answers", wait right here...I have a few questions that "you" never answered... BRB! ;D Ahhh! Here they are: Is it just me or did you notice that the two questions you conveniently chose "not" to answer have nothing to do with the past nor with my trying to defend my vote? 1. Would you say that you are out of line of what most American Catholics believe in voting for Obama? 2. Also, who kills the babies in abortions? So, care to give these two questions a shot this time? |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Feb 5, 2009 13:04:17 GMT -5
I posted yesterday in one of these political battle rooms that obama has given high jobs to people that are not qualified, posted the video from glen beck. Hmmm...people getting jobs their not qualified for? You mean, like Michael Steele? LMCBO! That was too easy! (By the way, their qualifications were never in question...it was their past tax discripencies...and who of us never ever cheated on anything ever before? Let them cast the first stone! LOL! ). Are you kidding me??? You must! You cannot make up excuses for these people that want to be in such highly repected positions, that you cant even respect. So what if i cheated in a game of poker....it was nothing that could affect the dang country. Stop deflecting and admit that these people are frauds. |
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Post by cradlecathlic27 on Feb 5, 2009 13:07:18 GMT -5
Hold on! Was there even a question there? And if you want to talk about "non-answers", wait right here...I have a few questions that "you" never answered... BRB! ;D Ahhh! Here they are: Is it just me or did you notice that the two questions you conveniently chose "not" to answer have nothing to do with the past nor with my trying to defend my vote? 1. Would you say that you are out of line of what most American Catholics believe in voting for Obama? 2. Also, who kills the babies in abortions? So, care to give these two questions a shot this time? 1. Im not out of line with the many Catholics that voted for Obama even though they never attend mass...no. 2. The docters do, but they only have that job because the Government allows them too. Kinda like Obama funding them  |
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You can't fault me for pointing out a mathematical fact.... ;D
